Obama’s Fake Birth Certificate
by Big Dog on Mar 7, 2010 at 15:25 Political
The Free Republic website was shut down today and remains down after a posting about Barack Obama’s birth certificate. I am unclear as to whether the website went down due to a huge amount of traffic or if it went down due to other reasons.
In any event, Gateway Pundit and Citizen Wells are reporting why this happened. Evidently, someone claims to have helped Devorah Adler, a political consultant and opposition research specialist for the Democratic National Committee in the United States, forge a birth certificate for Barack Obama. It is the forged certificate that was used by Fact Check.
“HUGE NEWS AT FREEREPUBLIC!!!
“My name is Chanise Foxx. I work at a office supply store in Kenwood, IL. After nearly 3 years of silence and death threats to me and my family to stay quiet, I am compelled to come forward and tell the world my secret.“I helped Obama campaign staffer Divorah Adler create a fake birth certificate for use in the famous Fact Check story to prove the world of Obama’s birth in the 2008 election. Divorah approached me in early 2007 and held onto the birth certificate until she released it in August 2008.
“As I’ve been making fake IDs part-time for local college students for about eight years now, faking a birth certificate was actually quite easy. Our first step was to get our hands on someone else’s birth certificate from Hawaii. We then created the stationary to match.
“Next, we had to create an embossed stamp and rubber signature stamp for Hawaiian officials. With the help of a high-resolution scanner at the store, I did most of my work at night when the place was vacant…””
It will be interesting to see how this plays out. If Chanise Foxx is a real person (and remains alive) it would be interesting to see her explain how (and why) she did what she claims and to see if she has any proof that she did it and of Adler’s involvement.
If any of this pans out it would make for some interesting drama in the weeks ahead.
Of course, this could be more Obama subterfuge to make people look like they are crazy.
He could clear it all up with $10 but he is too busy working on the health care takeover.
Let’s see how this plays out. Pop the popcorn and sit back.
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Tags: birth certificate, citizen wells, divorah adler, free republic, gateway pundit, Obama, phony birth certificate
What I can’t quite figure out is why Obama, if he really is a natural-born United States citizen, hasn’t simply produced his birth certificate and put an end to all the speculation. That he hasn’t done so is the principal fuel for those who doubt his qualifications to be president.
Of course, Obama is ideologically unqualified to be president, having no respect for private property, the separation of powers, or the Constitutional limitations on the federal government, but that’s a separate and much less debatable topic.
I’ve already got my popcorn. Just waiting for the moment when this blows up on your faces again and you all look like idiots.
Interesting you should use the words your and you as if I wrote one word that said this was true in any way, shape, or form. All I wrote was that it occurred and that it would be interesting to see if the person who said it was real and could prove it.
So tell me, oh young one, how could that possibly blow up in my face?
I am safer than the truthers (about 36% of Democrats) who now have an ally in Ahmadinejad…
I would like to see Obama put an end to this by releasing the real thing, not the fake one released before. But he probably likes this issue because he can use the astroturf to release little gems when he needs people distracted.
If I were this person (assuming this is a real person) I would be very careful. The last time Obama documentation was an issue, someone was murdered…
“Interesting you should use the words your and you as if I wrote one word that said this was true in any way, shape, or form.
…
I would like to see Obama put an end to this by releasing the real thing, not the fake one released before.”
Right, you didn’t say this story was true but you do believe he has released a fake birth certificate? My mistake.
There was no “fake one” released before so stop kidding yourselves. You may not feel like a fool but when this thing falls apart like every other bit of birther BS we will once again know why Obama loves this story and likes to hear you folks talk about it.
The popcorn should be saved for reading the freeper moron thread about this. I like this one:
Oh the fun.
Well Adam, you are correct in that NO BIRTH CERTIFICATE has been released so a fake one could not have been. So you are right, I meant he released a fake COLB.
A certificate of live birth was released and it was not real as several sources have shown.
However, even if it was real it is not valid as a Birth Certificate and Hawaii does not recognize it as valid for land claims issues. I could not use my COLB to get my passport, had to have the real Birth Certificate.
So if you think he released a birth certificate you are the one who is deluded.
“A certificate of live birth was released and it was not real as several sources have shown.”
…
So if you think he released a birth certificate you are the one who is deluded.”
Show me one source that doesn’t make me laugh my head off.
Adam is so brainwashed that he can’t think on his own to face reality. Obama is a controller and he would rather spend millions than lower himself to show the birth certificate. Imagine how many people could be provided for in Appalacia with all that wasted money. Arrogance eventually shows the true evil behind it.
Yeah Adam. If the bureau of vital statistics said it was fake you would laugh. You are entrenched in your ideology.
Funny how the slightest rumor about Bush gained your undying devotion.
However, you know he did not release a birth certificate unless you do not know the difference between the two. The COLB was not real but even if it was (and that is a big assumption) it contained nothing to prove either birth in the US or anything else. It was easy to register any birth in Hawaii.
I don’t want to get into the whole issue again because it is evident that you care nothing about the Constitution so long as you get what you want. At least McCain released his BC when Obama and the Dems questioned his eligibility.
“I don’t want to get into the whole issue again…”
Then why post about it? I don’t get it. You can’t prove anything you say but you still say it and then when confronted you run away?
Let’s see the evidence that the COLB released was “not real.” Let’s see the evidence that the COLB that says right on it that he was born in Hawaii contains “nothing to prove” he was born in Hawaii. Let’s see the evidence that the birth announcements in Hawaii newspapers given down from vital statistics were lies. Let’s see the evidence that the statement from Hawaii officials saying Obama was born in Hawaii are lies.
Good to see Bigd is back to using the GOOD republican ammo!
I just noticed that if you search for “Chanise Foxx” on google it wants you to make it “Chinese Foxx.” See that? That’s Google taking a break from scrubbing all the anti-Obama information out there to reprogram their search algorithm to further protect their man in Washington…
Once again Adam, you take things out of context. Number one, I did not run away from anything because the post was only to indicate that FREEP was shut down by that post and that I was unclear if it was due to traffic or otherwise.
I also indicated that it would be interesting to see how this pans out.
You injected the other stuff and then when I said I did not want to get into it again you played the game.
But to answer you:
People were allowed to register a non Hawaiian birth during that time frame. A COLB only takes info from a database and since it does not have all the birthplace info (hospital, doctor etc) it is invalid for many things such as land claims in Hawaii. I had one but could not use it to get my passport. Therefore, it proves nothing other than his birth was registered in Hawaii IAW the laws of the time.
The birth announcements were real. His mother had a very good reason for listing his birth in the paper. It would show he was a citizen should that question arise in the future. Nothing to do with his running for office but for the other things afforded citizens. I could submit a birth announcement right now in a local paper saying that Adam was born. Does that mean you were just born? Mommy had a purpose and it was to ensure there would be no question that her baby was a citizen (especially since daddy was a British subject).
The statement from the Hawaiian official does not say Obama was born in Hawaii. The person said I have seen his birth certificate and it is in accordance with Hawaiian laws (which allowed foreign births
to be registered). Here is the statement. Shoe me where he said Obama was born in Hawaii:
“Therefore, I as Director of Health for the State of Hawai‘i, along with the Registrar of Vital Statistics who has statutory authority to oversee and maintain these type of vital records, have personally seen and verified that the Hawai‘i State Department of Health has Sen. Obama’s original birth certificate on record in accordance with state policies and procedures,”
The have a birth certificate on file in accordance with their laws which allowed foreign births to be registered.
Like I said, contrary the the stupidity of Darrel and his ammo comment, the post had nothing to do with this but was dragged into it by you lunkheads.
I just Googled liberal dumb asses and saw pictures of Darrel and Adam. Must be Google taking a break from their circle jerk and looking for a few pivot men.
BigD: “contrary [to] Darrel and his ammo comment, the post had nothing to do with this…”>>
DAR
The post didn’t have anything to do with Birther nonsense? Could have fooled me. Walks and quacks exactly like Birther nonsense. Are there ANY Birther claims that are not nonsense?
Pass the popcorn Adam.
D.
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Standard BIRTHER ROAST:
CLAIM: “The “Certification of Live Birth” posted online and widely touted as “Obama’s birth certificate” does not in any way prove he was born in Hawaii, since the same “short-form” doc**ent is easily obtainable for children not born in Hawaii.”
Response, SMRSTRAUSS:
“This is not true in two ways. First when Obama was born this provision was not allowed. Only births in Hawaii were registered in Hawaii in 1961, and Obamas’ birth was registered in Hawaii in 1961.
Second, even today the state of Hawaii does not allow any of its doc**ents to lie. So, when a child is born outside of Hawaii and his parents qualify as Hawaiian residents, the short-form birth certificate must say something like: “Hawaii birth certificate, location of birth: New Jersey (or wherever it was). Obama’s says that he was born in Honolulu, Hawaii.
CLAIM: “The true “long-form” birth certificate – which includes information such as the name of the birth hospital and attending physician – is the only doc**ent that can prove Obama was born in Hawaii, but to date he has not permitted its release for public or press scrutiny.’
Response:
“But Obama cannot show it. Hawaii sends out only the short-form certifications of live birth. Only the short-form certifications to everyone. Link.
So, unless Obama has a copy of the original birth certificate, saved from the time of birth by his parents, and not lost since then (and many of us do lose our original birth certificate), then all that he can show is what Hawaii sends, and Hawaii sends out only the short-form certification.
The doc**ent that Obama posted and showed to FactCheck and PoliFact was confirmed by the two officials of the state when they looked into Obama’s records and found an original birth certificate. (At the time Obama was born Hawaii did not allow foreign birth certificates to be filed.) And subsequently, the spokewoman for the department spoke to the Chicago Tribune and said that the statement by the two officials was proof of birth in Hawaii.”
Chicago Tribune.
This is untrue. Anyone can request and obtain a long form certified copy of the original birth certificate. I had to do that to get my passport and Hawaiians who have land claim disputes do the same.
Spin it how you want. John McCain was able to show all that was requested when his eligibility was questioned.
Of course the birth notices didn’t come from his mother, did they? They come from vital statistics. Darrel is correct about the law. That’s a birther lie which I’ve pointed out before but you just ignored and repeated anyway. You forgot to mention the way Obama couldn’t have gone to Pakistan in the 1980’s since you’re into repeating already debunked lies.
My original birth certificate is long gone but yet I’ve got a passport so I don’t see your point about that.
Birtherism is a pack of lies and you repeat them. But let’s not call you a birther or suggest you support that by linking to and blockquoting birthers and spreading their conspiracy around…
ADM: “…a birther lie which I’ve pointed out before but you just ignored and repeated anyway.”>>
DAR
And I posted the above Birther roast back in August. Bigd’s error correction function gets a little stuck sometimes.
Your post was not a roast or error correction. It is as valid or invalid as those who claim otherwise and show it with the past statutes and the history.
Release the records, college transcripts might be helpful. Did Obambam register as a foreign student? Wouldn’t that be interesting?
Bigd: “It is as valid or invalid as those who claim otherwise…”>>
DAR
Wrong. Those who make the claim that the president is illegally holding the office because the secret service (and other agencies who have looked at this) are so unbelievably incompetent that they didn’t check this, have the BURDEN OF PROOF. So far they haven’t come up with anything that hasn’t been immediately LAUGHED out of court.
This is dumber than creationism.
D.
Would not seem to me that a person who helped with this would be a birther, the person helped Obama and knew it (if it is true).
I never commented one way or another except to say that FREEP was down because of it and that Obama never released a valid birth certificate, both true.
Yes, And I have seen the laws researched by others and they come to different conclusions than those who suport Obama.
My position all along is that I do not know because he was not held to the same standard as McCain, who manned up.
Why not get a certified copy of the original?
Why spend all the money?
Why do the hospitals in Hawaii not know where he was born?
Why did his granny say she was there in Kenya when he was born?
Certified copy of the original and all is settled.
Bigd: “Why spend all the money?”>>
DAR
I have seen this claim over and over. Obama has supposedly spent millions trying to keep his birth certificate hidden. Yet I have never seen a single drop of evidence supporting this claim. Do you have a drop of evidence for this most extraordinary claim? It’s really not too much to ask.
Bigd: “Why do the hospitals in Hawaii not know where he was born?”>>
DAR
“Barack Obama was born at Kapi’olani Maternity & Gynecological Hospital in Honolulu, Hawaii, United States…”
Washington Post.
Bigd: “Why did his granny say she was there in Kenya when he was born?”>>
DAR
Let’s see the evidence for this one.
D.
“Why did his granny say she was there in Kenya when he was born?”
She didn’t. Just another birther lie…