Commander In Chief Visits Fort Hood Wounded
by Big Dog on Nov 10, 2009 at 05:16 Political
The only problem is that it was the former Commander in Chief and not the current one. While Fort Hood is picking up the pieces and soldiering up, while the FBI is finally investigating the shooter’s ties to terrorism (and yes, there are ties), Barack Obama has not visited the wounded. He has yet to even visit the post (he is scheduled to saunter in today).
President George Bush and his wife Laura went to Fort Hood for a private visit with those wounded by the first Islamic terrorist attack on American soil since 9/11. George Bush always cared about the troops and often visited with them at Walter Reed.
The Bushes entered and departed the sprawling military facility in secret, having told the base commander they did not want press coverage of their visit, a source told Fox News. Fox
I know that running this country is a full time job but it seems to me that Obama could make an effort to get to Hood quickly to visit with the wounded and reassure the families of the dead. Let his Chicago thug buddies call up and ask him to make a pitch for the Olympics and he is on Air Force One jetting halfway around the world. When Michelle decides it is time for her date he hops on our plane and takes her to New York.
Let an Islamic terrorist kill American soldiers at the largest military base around and he fails to post.
And people wonder why the military has little use for this guy. The military, by and large, loved George Bush because he respected them and led them. He certainly did not leave them hanging for reinforcements while he stuck his wetted finger in the political wind to see what to do.
Bush was genuine and this idea is just reinforced by his visit to the wounded at Hood.
There should be no doubt by now that Hasan had ties to radical Muslims (who are praising what he did) and that he was making contact with al Qaeda sympathizers (and possibly members). His murder spree was motivated by his religion which makes him an Islamic terrorist. Yes, the government and the media tried to steer everything away from that fact but the evidence is mounting up and that can only mean the biggest terrorist attack on a US military base, in the US, happened on Obama’s watch and it was conducted by a guy who supported Obama.
The guy who did it was not a right wing conservative, or as Napolitano would put it, a domestic terrorist, but instead by a radical Muslim.
We are being told not to jump to conclusions (like say, Obama saying the police acted stupidly) and that there is a worry about backlash against Muslim soldiers. I don’t see that backlash taking place. The only soldiers who were targeted were non Muslims.
And they were attacked by a radical Muslim.
George Bush has been out of office for 11 nearly 11 months but he went to visit the wounded.
Maybe Obama had a tee time that kept him from paying a visit…
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Tags: Bush, fort hood, laura bush, Muslims, Obama, radicals, terrorist, visit the wounded
It’s a shame you are still speculating and twisting this tragedy to smear Muslims. No matter what ties you think you know Hasan had, you still are speculating on the motive and it’s as simple as that.
It’s really sad that you continue to use the attack to smear Obama though. You join a batch of despicable right win blowhards like Limbaugh who continue doing so.
First it was that he didn’t speak about the shooting in the right order in his speech. Now it’s he didn’t go to Ft. Hood soon enough. Probably when he goes somebody will find a video “proving” the troops aren’t cheering much. It’s smear after smear after smear from the right wing who have an idea that Obama doesn’t support the troops and they constantly fix the facts to fit that view.
You always say things like, “And people wonder why the military has little use for this guy.” How do you measure such an opinion?
Bigd, always stooping to a new low.
It is not speculation any longer and I smear the radical elements, not all Muslims.
What is a shame is how you will go to great lengths to avoid the obvious.
If only Murtha and the left would have given the same consideration to the Haditha Marines.
I accept Hasan’s ties to radical Islam. That much is pretty solid at this point. What I don’t get is how you can assume motive based on that. If a radical Muslim commits a crime then the crime is because of radical Islam?
WTF do you listen to yourself?
Let’s hear your objection.
Any A- hole who shouts Allah Akbar whilw shooting people I call a radical muslim terrorist- lets not pussyfoot around this PC crap here- he is a radical MUSLIM terrorist- and since the radical terrorists do not follow the Geneva Convention, I see no reasdon for us to either.
Vladimir Lenin said that the purpose of terrorism was to terrorize, and that is what they have been doing.
I say it is past time to get in the game- I would take a pig, and skin it, then sew this guy in the green skin, and set it out in the Texas sun until it shrinks to half its size and sends him to hell riding a pigskin blanket.
Or do as Vlad the Impaler did to thwart the muslim invasion of his country- he formed an “orchard” of muslim trees by staking several thousand captured muslim soldiers to the ground. That did the trick-
We need to get beyond this PC stuff, and while I do not hate all muslims, the radicals should be put to death as horrifically as possible.
We need to make sure that if they do not respect us, at least they fear us with every particle of their body.
BigDog Wrong again! You are the most bigoted fd up human on earth . Good luck and god bless Even you
Also what makes you believe that the military has “has little use” for Obama? On what do you base that idea?
Bush cared so much about the troops he closed VA hospitals during two wars, tried to cut their combat pay, sent the troops to Iraq with inferior trasport armor (later revised, under pressure), sent the troops to Iraq with no standard issue flak vests (relatives had to spring for the cost), AND by lying the country into a war. Oh, and he NEVER met the coffins coming back to the US like Obama has already done in his first year as Commander-in-Chief. With support like that from Bush, no wonder we lost more people after 9/11 than we did on 9/11.
Bush went to Dover, he just didn’t go for photo ops.
So 8 months after he is in office we go to war with troops equipped by Clinton and Bush is to blame because it is not enough? Remember, the troops were using equipment provided under Clinton so if it was inferior it is because of him. Did you complain about the cuts Obama made or is he your hero as well? I was in the military during Clinton and I remember the cuts.
You are repeating the lies, Bush lied us into war. For a supposed Freethinker, you sound like a Code Pink girl…
Obama went to see them to get a picture taken so the heat would be off him for dithering on sending troops. But let us see how many more times Obama goes there just to show his concern…
Bush 41 cut funding more than Clinton did. Does that mean Bush 41 “gutted” the military as well? I’ve never once seen a conservative say such but maybe you can surprise me.
Bigd: “So 8 months after [Bush] is in office we go to war with troops equipped by Clinton and Bush is to blame because it is not enough?”>>
DAR
The body armor scandal didn’t hit until 2003. Clearly Bush’s fault.
D.
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“At a House Appropritions subcommittee hearing Sept. 24, 2003, Army Gen. John Abizaid, chief of the U.S. Central Command, did not dispute the estimate that 40,000 troops were without the newer design, and said the $300 million was needed to buy more of the vests.”
Factcheck
http://www.nypost.com/p/news/opinion/opedcolumnists/call_this_horror_by_its_name_islamist_HT78Wt6NkWoCGq5HIOwlII#ixzz0WNWcyh7Y
The author ends with–“I guarantee you that the Obama administration’s nonresponse to the Fort Hood attack will mock the memory of our dead.”
RUSH: Let me remind you of something and run something by you. Our government officials always go to great pains to say that this is “not a war against Islam.” Obama said it, Eric Holder, all these people. “The real Muslims,” they say, “are strongly opposed to violence. Real Muslims are strongly opposed to it.” If this is so obviously true, why is it even necessary to have to say it? Why aren’t the recruiting centers overflowing with Muslims who are offended at how these extremists are perverting and defaming their sacred religion? Why aren’t they? Why aren’t they reporting suspicious activity by extremes in their neighborhoods and mosques?
Shorter Victoria: Islam = The Devil
Are you trying to act like meathead?
Meathead didn’t invent the use of shorter. There’s no need for Victoria’s verbosity. We know she hates and fears Islam as a whole and not just the radical elements of it.
Meat didn’t invent anything except very bad prose- unreadable, in fact- why else use the “shorter” scenario? A man of few words and fewer ideas.
I don’t detect any fear, just concern for morons who will not see what has happened through non PC eyes.
And meathead might not have invented it but he uses it a lot.
You call me meathead for suggesting you lie as well. I didn’t know meathead had the patent on detecting your BS.
You are more polite than meathead though he is the same when it comes to labeling and taking things out of context.
PC? Read the news for a change.
I typically agree with meathead’s assessment of wing-nut bloggers though I tend to disagree with his methods for informing you of it.
As for PC, I would rather hear your opinion since you’re the one making the point.
How is PC at fault in the Ft. Hood murders?
The higher- ups knew of Hasan’s attitudes, but chose, because of PC fears, to ignore them. The FBI knew of his E- mails, but chose not to act because of PC fears, when he should have been yanked out of the military and sent to Gitmo- that would have saved 13 people’s lives and the 31 wounded- this is something you do not touch on, as if they matter not to you, instead choosing, like the other A- holes, to focus onpoor Hasan- who had, ap[parently, PRE- traumatic stress disorder. Give me a break.
And the Muslims who do not condemn this in the loudest of voices, in my opinion, should be deported.
If they cannot freely swear alliegence to this country, AND FORESWEAR ALL OTHERS, they do not need to be here.
Clinton cut the number of divisions in half. You say Bush 41 cut more, in what areas and under what circumstances? He did not cut the number of divisions in half. (Army Divisions)
Bigd: Clinton cut the number of divisions in half.>>
DAR
Stale old republican lies. Here is one by Giuliani, knocked down:
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“…most of the cutting to which Giuliani refers occurred during the administration of George H.W. Bush. At the end of fiscal year 1993 (which was Bush’s last one in office), the Army had 572,423 active-duty soldiers – a far cry from 725,000. In fact, to get to that number, one has to go back to 1990, during the first gulf war. Moreover, Clinton’s cuts in the military, while large, were nowhere close to 25 percent to 30 percent. Between 1993 and 2001, the Army went from 572,423 to 480,801, which is a decline of 16 percent. The entire military went from 1,705,103 to 1,385,116, a decrease of 18.8 percent.
Compare that with the far larger cuts made during the first Bush administration: In 1989, the military stood at 2,130,229 and the Army had 769,741 soldiers. By 1993, those numbers had declined by 19.9 percent and 25.6 percent, respectively.”
Factchecking Republicans on Bill Clinton and Military Spending
D.
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“When Clinton took office. He had a choice. He could continue with GHWB/Congress’s plan to reduce the size of the military or stop its implementation. He chose to continue.”
Oh, God. More details on Blake’s torture fetish. Just what we needed.
We get it man, you’re sick in the head and you like to detail your fantasies for all of us to read. Do you get off on all this talk of torture and abuse? Why don’t you get some mental help for that?
I have no torture fetish- but the Geneve Convention only works when both sides agree to abide by it.
If they are going to cut off our heads, I say we terrorize them. Heck, it can be something as simple as putting bacon grease on every bullet ( a liberal told me that one)- if they won’t respect us, fear will work for me.
I realize that I am in the minority (for now), but sometimes you must fight fire with fire, and if you are not willing to step up and be willing to do these things, YOU WILL LOSE.
The founders of our country (which you love to quote when it makes your case) believed rights didn’t come from documents and treaties. I wish torture fetish conservatives would acknowledge that idea when it comes to justifying torture because they think somebody isn’t party to a document that says torture is wrong.
The term “Islamophobia” is a deliberate attempt to combine criticism of a belief system with hatred of a people because of the color of their skin. Thus “Islamophobia” is wrongfully allied with the real horrors of racism.
“Islamophobia” is a nonsense term. A “phobia” is an “irrational fear.” “Claustrophobia” is irrational because enclosed spaces do not tend to kill you. But given the permanent intifada against Israel; a high level of Muslim-on-Muslim crime, including terrorism and honor killings; a fearfully mounting death toll; and the realities of Islamic (not Islamist) gender and religious apartheid, we actually have many reasons to be fearful of some – certainly not all – aspects of Islam. Women, gay men and Jews have particular reason to be fearful. As do civilian commuters in major European cities, tourists in Asia and Africa, and American soldiers on military bases.
It’s not “phobic” to be worried about Islam/Islamism. It is eminently rational, given that since 9/11, there have been more than 14,000 jihadic attacks against civilians around the world. This does not include battlefront statistics.
Do not demonize the truth teller, deal with the issues
But to think that the answer to any criticism of Islam or Muslims is to demonize its critics and to indulge in exaggerated self-pity is to make the world more dangerous for us all.
The truth
America is fighting back in a war that radical, jihadic Islamists have declared against Israel and the West, especially against America. The Islamists have managed to persuade western leftists, academics, politicians, and the media that America and Israel are waging a war on Islam. It’s what Osama bin Laden thinks.
“Women, gay men and Jews have particular reason to be fearful.”
These 3 groups are also fearful of the GOP, so I guess you right-wing nut-jobs have something in common with the other radical elements you spread fear over.
Here is a video of what happens when you take this garbage about political correctness being to blame for the attack on Ft. Hood to it’s illogical conclusion.
Riiiight–“the rightwing anti-government movenment.”
I’m sorry that you too want to pretend McVeigh was a lone wolf and that he wasn’t tied to any right-wing militia movement within the United States.
We’re All Practicing Shariah With Fort Hood Terror Alibis
Thursday, November 12, 2009 10:45 AM
By Pamela Geller
“You see, Shariah forbids criticism of Islam. And here we are.
We are witnessing an Islamized America. This is well beyond political correctness. We are enforcing Shariah. We will not insult Islam. That is Shariah. We self censor. That is Shariah. We disrespect ourselves, our nation, so that we might respect Islam. This is dhimmitude.
We should be raging. We should be outraged. We should be strategizing for this worldwide conflict. We should be debating about which leader will best handle Islam’s war on the West. And yet we have not one leader who begins to understand the conflict. That’s how feared the subject matter is — not one leader.”
People keep blaming PC but not telling how PC caused anything or what would have happened without PC. Where is the proof that somebody ignored the warning signs with Hasan because he was a Muslim?
Look at the FBI reports, or the lecture he gave to other members of the Army- or things he told others that they felt uncomfortable.
If you can ignore those things, you are too PC.
It’s clear warning signs were ignored. That’s not the point. Show me proof these things were ignored because it was politically incorrect.