Did Obama Draw that Many People?
by Big Dog on May 21, 2008 at 12:40 Political
Recently, news stories touted how Barack Obama drew a crowd of 75,000 people to a rally and they trumpeted how this was the largest crowd in history. It must mean that the Obamessiah is the real deal and that people come from miles around just to hear him speak.
What the news outlets left out of the story is that a popular Portland Band gave a free concert before Obama spoke. Not one outlet mentioned that perhaps some of those people came for the free concert. Most news organizations failed to even mention that the band, The Decemberists, performed for the crowd (it was in an Oregon piece). The band would explain such a large crowd when he has never done this before.
Instead of letting us know that rock stars performed they just told us of the Barack Star thus giving the impression that he was responsible for the number of people who showed.
John Kerry drew 50,000 when he had Leonardo DiCaprio and rocker Jon Bon Jovi accompany him. Certainly that many people did not show up just to see Kerry (who served in Vietnam).
Sure, Obama is a big draw but I wonder how many liberals will consider this intellectual dishonesty, a claim leveled against me for not mentioning that some Conservatives wrote nasty stuff about Kennedy’s illness when I pointed out how the left acts when Conservatives fall ill.
Sources:
Oregon.com
News Busters
Tags: crowd, dishonesty, Obama, portland, rock band
Do you really think 75,000 people came to see some indie band? Seriously. Should the media, for every event, focus on all of the famous and semi-famous people who also were there, just in case some people went to see them instead?
Do you even know who the Decemberists are? Are you saying that an indie band with little to no airplay is the reason 75,000 came to that Obama rally? They’re as much of “rock stars” as Vincent Gallo is a “movie star”.
How many people left when they stopped playing and Obama started speaking? A little thinking goes a long way.
Barack Star
[b]H.R. Clinton:[/b] I’m through with standing in line
for an office I’ll never get in
It’s like the bottom of the ninth
And I’m never gonna win
This campaign hasn’t turned out
Quite the way I want it to be
(Tell me what you want)
I want a White House
On an episode of CNN
And a bathroom I can make back room deals in
And a king size tax bill big enough
For ten plus me
(So what you need?)
[b]B.O.:[/b] I’ll need a Federal Budget that’s got no limit
And a big Blue & White jet with a bedroom in it
Gonna join the mile high club
At thirty-seven thousand feet
[b]Bill Clinton:[/b](Been there, done that)
[b]B.O.:[/b]I want a new Congress full of old Liberals
My own monument off Independence Avenue
Somewhere between Jefferson and
Lincoln is fine for me
(So how you gonna do it?)
[b]B.O.:[/b]I’m gonna trade this life for fortune and fame
I’d even change my pastor and my name
[Chorus:]
‘Cause we all just wanna be big Barackstars
And live in the White House driving fifteen cars
The interns come easy and the kickbacks come cheap
We’ll keep it hush hush cause the media loves liberals
And we’ll hang out in the coolest bars
In the VIP with the CEOs
Every tax & spend Dems
Gonna wind up there
Even Nancy Pelosi
With her dyed brown hair
Hey hey I wanna be a Barackstar
Hey hey I wanna be a Barackstar
I wanna be great like Kennedy without the assassins
Hire eight news networks that love to dig up dirt on GOP
Sign a couple bills into laws
So Michelle can finally feel proud to live in the land of the free
(I’ll raise taxes and it’ll breeze through the Senate & House)
I’m gonna dress my ass
With the latest fashion
Get a front door key to the White House mansion
Gonna meet face to face with a Terrorist who loves to blow up children you see
(So how you gonna do it?)
I’m gonna trade this life for fortune and fame
I’d even change my pastor and my name
[Chorus]
And we’ll hide out in the private rooms
With the latest dictionary and today’s who’s who
They’ll get you anything with that cheesy smile
Everybody’s got a journalist on speed dial, well
Hey hey I wanna be a Barrackstar
I’m gonna sign those bills
That tax the middle classes
Gonna pop my policy from a Carter pez dispenser
I’ll get the best writers writing all my speaches
read them off the teleprompter every night so I don’t get ’em wrong
[Chorus]
And we’ll hide out in the private rooms
With the latest dictionary and today’s who’s who
They’ll get you anything with that cheesy smile
Everybody’s got a journalist on speed dial, well
Hey hey I wanna be a Barackstar
Hey hey I wanna be a Barackstar
Of course the Obamabots come out. No Obamabots, people only showed up to see Obama, he always draws 75,000 people.
The band is a local band and is popular in Portland.
A little thinking goes a long way. If you thought, you would not vote for Obama.
Another sleigh of hands trick from the leftists and their lame-stream media. They sure want to install a more socialistic form of government in the US of A.
BD, I hate say it, but, Obama could be our next Commander in Chief. G_d help us.
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PS, probably free pot and music got those Oregonians motivated to see Barack Hussein Obama. A little pot and music makes go nuts. 🙂
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I love it, Scott. Very good! (Although I don’t think Nickelback would approve – lol).
Have you heard that this band opens their shows with the former Soviet Union’s national anthem?
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One problem is you’re parroting a popular story circulating on right wing forums and blogs this week about the 75,000 myth. Can anybody say echo chamber? This is a lot like that chain letter you posted a few weeks ago that listed how bad things have gotten in America since the Democrats took over Congress which is full of distortions and myths…but I digress.
Most of the media outlets ran the same AP story which mentioned the Decemberists. Let me be the first to take blame for the media’s failure to report each alternative reason people might have shown up at the Obama rally other than to see Obama. I’m so sorry. The media is so liberal…
Adam,
The fact is the major media said Obama drew the crowd and never mentioned that there was a popular band there. I am sure that since Obama draws 75,000 every where he goes that he did it here as well. Most of the media DID NOT run the AP story until long after they had reported the record crowd without mentioning the band. It should have been mentioned up front but it was ignored and the impression was that all these people showed for Obama. They might have but there is this matter of intellectual honesty you mentioned. It goes both ways. I will say though, you stick true to the double standard of the left.
If you would like to pint out the distortions in the last item i would be happy to read them. The FACT is the Democrats promised to unleash their plan to fix the gas price problem and they have not. The FACT is when they took over the price of gas was $2.19 a gallon. Therefore they are responsible. That is the game you and the rest of the libs played when the right was in charge. You blamed them because they were the majority, now the blame is on the Dems.
And please don’t tell me the market is the reason, or supply and demand. I know it to be true and have said it all along but you do not get that luxury. The left has maintained that evil oil barons like Bush and Cheney drove up the price. They further maintained that they had a plan. So forget the reality and demonstrate that which was promised (and that only kool aid drinkers on the left believed).
Come on now. You have no case. It was an Obama political rally, not a Decemberists concert. The Decemberists were the opening act. Of course there were plenty of people there just to see the band I’m sure, but there are dozens of reasons anybody comes to anything, none of which the media are required to mention except in your head. I’m sure there were 1000’s of people who didn’t even support Obama such as Hillary supporters. Do they need to mention that? What if there was free food? I wonder how many actual true believers were in the 75,000 crowd.
I might suggest the real issue here is that you can’t stand the fact that Democrats have so much more support and financial backing by voters this time around. You and the others on the right that keep parroting this story are fudging more bogus liberal media biases and severely grasping to try and take away the credibility of the fact that 75,000 people were at an Obama rally. Suck it up.
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As for the chain letter about Dems in congress, you can type fact in all caps but it that doesn’t make the dribble in that letter any less bogus and misleading specially the claims about $2.19 a gallon gas.
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So, what you are saying is that if I fail to mention that some people on the right are as bad as the left with cruelty it is intellectual dishonesty but if the media fails to mention that a rock band was there and could have been responsible for some of the draw it is OK. Now you can see why I say you libs are hypocrites. Now, I don’t care how many people come to see him. Hitler drew large crowds and look how that turned out. It does not matter to me. If Obama wins the country will be so screwed up and when he negotiates with terrorists and we get attacked I think we might declare open season on libs and start popping them.
I am stating a fact, You have always had trouble with them when they pointed unfavorably to your candidates. I always told you the Clintons were liars and you defended them. Seen any snipers lately. And if you say she was tored or mistaken then you are a fool with a kool aid IV. Matter of fact, I wrote about this many months before it broke.
A lot of people showed up for the band and a lot showed up for Obmessiah. It is foolish to believe he drew that many on his own since he never has not even when the Phantom of the Oprah was with him…
Fact check assumes information as of Nov 2006 when they won. I said that gas prices were $2.19 when they took control which was in January 2007. The price of gasoline at that time was $2.19. It had been higher and it had been lower in the previous few years but it definitely was 2.19 when they took control.
Fact check admits that it does not know when a little over a year was or what index was used. I have no doubt that the numbers are made to conveniently fit the premise just as the left’s claim that this is the worst economy when in fact the unemployment and inflation numbers are nearly identical to Clinton’s. Bush had better growth numbers despite a crippling blow on 9/11 but to the left it was always better then.
Regardless, my claim is that gas was 2.19 when they took charge and it was. Given that the Dems said they had a plan to fix gas prices and prices are much higher than 2.19, it would appear they lied.
Back to the rally, are you telling me that when Kerry drew 50,000 they were there to see him because it was his rally? Bon Jovi and Dicaprio had nothing to do with it? I just want to know what the rules are this week because you will certainly change them to fit the situation next time.
Everything that has gone south since Jan 2007 is the fault of the Democrats. They are in control.
As for large numbers turning out, sure you have a woman and a mulatto running and Dems support both so they had to turn out. I am willing to bet that 20% of the under 21 crowd will vote. The ones who vote are old white women.
Let me ask one more thing. Why did Obama put a hold on filling the FEC seat? No complaints about election fraud can be remedied if there is not a quorum. Why do you think he did that? He has cheated on other elections so do you think he will try some Chicago stuff in the General? I just wonder what his motivation is….
I am also sure that CBS is lying when it writes that consumer confidence is at a 5 year low. The email said Consumer Confidence plummeted. A 5 year low might not be a plummet (would depend on the difference and the definition of plummet) but this is also on the Dems watch…
From the Department of energy(reported in cents):
Jan 01, 2007 229.6
Jan 08, 2007 225.8
Jan 15, 2007 217.3
Jan 22, 2007 210.7
Jan 29, 2007 211.9
The average is 219.06 (or $2.19)
Is fact check correct on this or am I and the DOE?
Remember, I said when they took control (it was higher in November when they got elected).
You can’t simply imagine a connection between two unrelated events and then call me a hypocrite for having two viewpoints. You falsely claiming conservatives don’t attack liberal politicians when they’re ill has nothing to do with the media omitting reasons for why 75,000 people showed up to an Obama rally. Don’t you see that?
You’ll say and do anything to discredit those that disagree with you. You pretend to have the facts on your side when every argument you make is a logical fallacy and utterly idiotic. What the hell is wrong with you?
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How can the events be unrelated when they took place at the same time and were coordinated. The 9/11 hijackers were Muslims. Iguess the fact that they flew planes into a building and they were Muslim are also unrelated?
You are now lying Bill Clinton Jr. I never said that conservatives don’t attack liberals who are ill. I only mentioned that the left did it. In later comments I clearly stated that it happened on both sides but that most of the time they are gone when I get to a site.
Don’t resort to distorting facts because you are trying to prove a point. I can admit when I did something right or wrong but i will not allow you to tell lies about me.
I’m not saying the rally and concert are unrelated, just the Kennedy conversation and the Obama rally (“…many liberals will consider this intellectual dishonesty, a claim leveled against me…”).
Ironically as soon as I accuse you of logical fallacies you turn around and spit out another in your defense. It is a logical fallacy to relate those instances and imply that the 9/11 hijackers were Muslims and the 9/11 hijackers flew planes into the building, so therefore Muslims fly planes into buildings. Of course you’re convinced that the war on terrorism is a war on Islam, so why am I not surprised that you’d back an illogical idea with an illogical argument?
Your whole argument in comparing the Kennedy conversation and the Obama rally is as equally full of logic errors that it’s pathetic for you to continue arguing it. Yet you make the comparison and suggest I am hypocritical about it…wrong.
Certainly the two issues are unrelated however, the issue of mentioning or not is the same.
I should have written therefore, Muslims flew the planes into those buildings.
It was deliberate for them not to mention it. Just like after one of his wins they showed a cropped picture of all kinds of people in an auditorium. Turns out, the far shot shows few people and the crowd was reporters.
The media are in the tank for this guy and that is not in dispute.