GOP Ayers Out Obama Ties To Terrorist
by Big Dog on Oct 6, 2008 at 20:10 Political
Barack Obama and his surrogates have downplayed his association with unrepentant terrorist William Ayers telling us that they spoke in passing or were neighbors and the impression is always that there was nothing to their relationship. The Drive by Media has been guilty of ignoring the connections and of trumpeting the lies from the Obama camp without one ounce of journalistic effort to get at the truth.
The GOP has unleashed a compilation of facts showing that Obama’s relationship with the domestic terrorist is much more than he, his surrogates, or the Drive by Media has reported. Yes, it is true that Obama was 7 or 8 when Ayers and his band of Communists attacked our country from within but Obama was in his 40s when Ayers said that he did not regret setting the bombs and felt that the group had not done enough. Obama has stated that he denounced the acts of Ayers but Obama has not distanced himself from the man who hosted the coming out party for the chosen successor to State Senator Alice Palmer. Obama was the chosen one and Ayers hosted his coming out party. Obama did not loathe Ayers’ acts enough to decline the invitation.
The GOP post indicates that the neighbors are all part of a social circle and that Michelle and Barack Obama are part of that social group which includes Ayers and his wife Bernardine Dohrn. Ayers posed for a magazine article entitled No Regrets and the photo for the article has him standing on an American Flag. That was in 2001, one month before the Islamic terrorist attacks on this country. Obama has continued his association with Ayers since that time and he has voiced no opposition to Ayers’ treatment of the Flag. The GOP site contains quite a few details.
Sarah Palin has been untethered since the VP debate and has gone on the full attack. She made the connection of Obama to Ayers and said that Obama does not see America like the rest of us do. Basically, Palin pointed out that Obama has a terrorist as a friend and he has never ended that friendship. Palin is spot on and she needs to keep up these attacks and start adding all the other shady characters from Obama’s past.
A Democratic strategist tried to minimize Palin by saying:
“It’s a giant changing of the subject,” said Jenny Backus, a Democratic strategist. “The problem is the messenger. If you want to start throwing fire bombs, you don’t send out the fluffy bunny to do it. I think people don’t take Sarah Palin seriously.”
My friend Don Surber had to agree with Backus and brilliantly points out:
Yes, if you want fire-bombing done right, Obama is the expert on who to call.
Truer words were never spoken.
Tags: ayers, friendship, lies, Obama, palin, Terrorism
From 1995-2000, Obama as Chair of the Chicago Annenberg Challenge (CAC) or as a Board Member at the Woods Fund funneled $49,500,000
to Ayers in his capacity as the
Grants obtained for the support of the Small Schools Workshop and/or the Chicago Forum for School Change at the University of Illinois at Chicago, co-director, principal investigator.
Woods 1995 20,000
Annenberg 1996 175,000
Annenberg Challenge 1997 260,000
Annenberg Challenge 1995-200049,200,000
grant writer
Woods 2001 35,000
49,690,000 (nearly 50 million dollars in grants)
Questions to ask the wingnuts screeching “Ayers! Ayers!”…
1. Who was David Ifshin?
2. For what act during the Vietnam War era is he best known?
3. Which current candidate for President later befriended Ifshin, and delivered a videotaped eulogy at Ifshin……
David Ifshin went to Hanoi and told American troops to turn against the Vietnam war. He did not blow up anyting and he was not a terrorist.
If we are discussing John McCain, why not just hammer him for paving the way to normal relations with VN?
Ifshin did what a lot of people did then and are doing now, encouraging troops to turn against the war sort of like John Kerry did. Why is it that idiots like Meathead supported Kerry who turned against the war but want to excoriate McCain who befriended MANY people who were agianst the war?
The fact is, none of this has anything to do with Ayers who bombed buildings in this country. Ifshin was a radical (who becaome more conservative as he aged) and he engaged in civil dissent. There is a difference between that and terrorism or is Meathead suggesting we should arrest anti war protesters as terrorists?
They are grasping at straws because they know their messiah has friends who hate America. It is too bad one of those bombs did not go off and kill him and his then pregnant wife.
Wow, you seem so upset about Obama’s association with the anti-American Ayers. I bet you are equally enraged by John McCain having sat on the board of the US Council for World Freedom, which is not only affiliated with Nazi collaborators, but is extremely anti-semitic. What’s more, many of its members helped the Reagan administration circumvent Congress and the US Constitution during Iran-Contra. I guess those associations are ok….
Why do you hate America?
Since we’re playing guilt by association, anyone remember which candidate for VP is married to someone who at one time belonged to an Alaskan secessionist party? Yep, same governor that also gave a speech at the avowedly anti-American organization, whose founder said the fires of hell were not enough to represent his hatred for these United States. Is that also not relevant in this race?
So I was wondering what exactly you seem to know about the Weather Underground. Well from doing a little research these so called terrorist were white hippies that blew up a statue a couple of times and now you are linking Obama to terrorist organizations. Is it because he’s “Muslim” because the last time I checked that was proven to be a lie too. Maybe it’s because you are racist and think that because he’s black he’s most likely to be a Muslim and therefore you conjure up all these ideas that he is linked to terrorist organizations.
It’s not just Ayers that Obama is connected with, although that’s who everyone’s focusing on lately, and that is important.
His career has in part been boosted by monetary contributions and fundraisers held by Rashid Khalidi, who has direct ties to the PLO.
In 2001 he had a paid position as director of the Woods Fund and issued grants totaling $75,000 to the Arab American Action Network, another radical group with ties to the PLO.
His church (that he attended for 20 YEARS) published a pro-Hamas (an undeniably terrorist group) newsletter, and the Rev. Wright gave an award last year to Louis Farrakhan and said he “truly epitomizes greatness”.
The facts are there to link Obama to terrorist organizations and it has NOTHING to do with racism or whether he is or isn’t a Muslim.
Shouldn’t it be a big clue that Ahmed Yousef, Prime Minister of Hamas said “We like Mr. Obama and hope he will win the election.” ???! If that isn’t enough reason to have serious doubts about his character, qualifications and motives…
http://m.kpbs.npr.org/news.jsp?key=439913&rc=ne&p=0 On NPR today: “It was never a concern by any of us in the Chicago school reform movement that he had led a fugitive life years earlier,” said former Illinois state Republican Rep. Diana Nelson, who worked with both Obama and Ayers over the years. “It’s ridiculous. There is no reason at all to smear Barack Obama with this association. It’s nonsensical, and it just makes me crazy. It’s so silly.” The Obama campaign says he first met Ayers in 1995, when Obama became chair of the board of the Chicago Annenberg Challenge, a $50 million fund that awarded grants to groups trying to implement new programs to improve inner city education in Chicago. Walter Annenberg, a lifelong Republican and former ambassador who was appointed by Presidents Nixon and Reagan, funded an ambitious program to reform urban education in many cities in the mid 1990s. Ayers was an important member of the group that developed and wrote the grant proposal to the Annenberg Foundation. …no one on the board or on the Annenberg Challenge staff remembers Obama being any closer to Ayers than to any other member of the board. The Annenberg board also included several civic, business and education leaders, many of them Republicans… “I don’t remember ever hearing anyone raise concerns or questions or concerns about Ayers’ background,” says Anne Hallett, who has worked closely with Ayers on the Annenberg Challenge grant and with Obama on education and other community and legislative matters. “And that included everybody I was engaged with,” including prominent Republicans, and corporate and civic leaders in Chicago, Hallett adds.
Obama, it appears is not the only one with “terrorist” connections.
Palin’s pals in the Alaska Independence Party had ties to terrorist state Iran. Yes, Iran. The country that wants to wipe Israel off the map.
http://www.americablog.com/2008/10/palins-pals-in-alaska-independence.html
The Weather Underground detonated bombs at the US Capitol and the Pentagon. They tried to blow up a dance at Fort Dix and kill soldiers and their dates but the bomb they were building blew up and killed 3 of them instead (too bad Ayers was not one of them). Members of that group bombed a recruiting office in New York and they also killed a police officer.
So perhaps you should stay away from the school books that the public school system uses and read something more accurate.
I will reiterate, none of the “radical” people that are associated with Palin or McCain blew anything up or killed anyone. Do they say anti American things? Some of them did but if this is the measure you want all you jackass libs who burn flags are terrorists.
Guilt by association? You mean like associating McCain with Bush and blaming him for the problems…
So blowing up things is beyond the pale. Well, how about trying to subvert the constitution, like G. Gordon Liddy did, or even the Alaskan Independence party has done by advocating for secession from these United States. You know, it’s funny to see you get so agitated at a few simple questions. The guilt by association bit, is because you say, Obama knew Ayers, they served on a board (financed by a Republican, and here other Republicans also served) but somehow they are not terrorists…that’s a bit of a doube standard. And as for killing Americans, let’s see, how do you think the Iranians employed the money and weapons we gave them back then, maybe in Lebanon, or the Khobar Towers in Saudi which killed Americans, or perhaps they invested it in something more long term acquisitions, that eventually made their way to Iraq, and killed our soldiers…Given that McCain and Palin have associations with these people, it seems that they are guilty of supporting terrorism against America and our soldiers. This, of course, using what I’ll charitably call, your standards.
As for associating McCain with Bush, well, that is simple, Bush has been president for the last 8 years. Sen. McCain though initially opposing Dubya on many issues, in order to win the nomination in the Republican party, essentially flip flopped on these and sided with President Bush at least 90% of the time, as such, he is at least 90% like President Bush in terms of beliefs and policy prescriptions. He at first, back when many of us believed in him, opposed the tax cuts (first time in a time of war), the president prescribed and called them irresponsible and dangerous, he warned of the deficits which we are now sadled with, and also called them patently unfair b/c they ent overhelmingly to the rich. More recently, however, he has not only backed those tax cuts, but he has proposed new ones, similarly tilted to the richest in our country, the same ppl who brought us the greed that led to the Wall Street collapse, and has said little about the middle class.
And as for being a democrat, I’m not, I’m an independent. I think both parties are full of idiots, however, i get even sicker of hearing partisan hacks bring up stuff that has already been reviewed and found to be, to put it kindly, a stretch of the truth.
Thanks to stuff like this coming from ppl like you, I’m more inclined to vote for Sen. Obama, if only to send a message to all politicians that the politics of destruction, of tearing others down and questioning their patriotism must stop.
I don’t like Sen. Obama, in fact, I think his VP is far more qualified to be president, but at least when he chose him, he looked to try to demonstrate to Americans that he could make responsible choices and had the best interests of the country at heart. This, unfortunately with Sen. McCain was not the case. He chose Gov. Palin, a person, who although admirable in many ways, has little to no experience thinking about the issues that affect us nationally, or globally. I mean, even Karl Rove, and many other conservatives didn’t think so. karl, being a good tool defended her by saying “she was the mayor of the second biggest town in Alaska and governor for 2 yrs” Yet when asked about Tim Kaine as a VP choice for Obama, he said, Tim Kaine was only the mayor of Richmond, which is not that big (about 20 x bigger than Wasila), and he’s been governor for less than 3 yrs. If Sen. Obama picked him, he would send the message to Americans that he was not thinking about the best thing for our country, but playing politics. I mean, karl rove’s double standard was amazing, as is yours. I guess you have something in common; you make good tools.
Here, I’ll end up choosing the lesser of two evils, and so far that’s been Sen. Obama, who although less experienced that Sen. Mccain has shown himself to be a thoughful person and on both debates so far.
As for burning American flags, I never have, and instead have raised it. Also, I voted for Bush in 2000, but against him in 2004 once it became clear that he had not learned any lessons from his first 4 rys in office, oh, and I’m also from a swing state, so my vote will count, and so far, all this negative bs is turning me away from Sen. McCain. So, if that was your purpose, good job.
There is no law against seceding from the union. The original documents said they made the choice freely and were free to leave it.
Liddy went to jail for breaking and entering for 20 years because he refused to rat anyone out (you get less for murder). The point is, he paid his price. Ayers never did.
Obama has voted with the libs 97% of the time. They all vote with their parties, big deal. How does that equate to 4 more years of the same? Obama will be 4 more years of Carter, so what is the point?
I doubt you ever had an open mind by your nickname. It is not people like me who turn you off, it is your inability to look at the facts. just because someone says it has been disproven does not mean it is so. The media has not fully vetted Obama. He is the affirmative action candidate.
Vote for him if you like. We can survive 4 years of anyone. I only hope that the people who are duped into voting for him are eating cat food when things go really bad. His presidency will be so bad America will vote a true conservative in next time and the next black guy will get a real close look. I am not saying it is right but that will be the mindset, been there, done that.
Vote for him if you like. We can survive 4 years of anyone. I only hope that the people who are duped into voting for him are eating cat food when things go really bad. His presidency will be so bad America will vote a true conservative in next time and the next black guy will get a real close look. I am not saying it is right but that will be the mindset, been there, done that.
Actually that’s a meme, it’s just funny. Kinda like calling Obama “the one.”
As for Liddy, yeah he went to jail but he is still unrepentant, and more recently has called for shooting FBI agents and defending yourself from the government. If that’s not inciting violence against the federal government I don’t know what is. Still, my point in bringing Liddy up was not to argue about whether this one, or that one is a worst association, but rather than these things are just noise and should be ignored.
As for being duped by Obama nad ending up eating cat food, I think most people are at the point of eating cat food and dog food thanks to your party’s president these last 8 yrs.
You say the media has not vetted Obama, but Republicans, let me say again, republicans who served with him on the board (where Ayers also served) say that Obama was not closer to Ayers than anyone else, and in fact frustrated liberals in the board because of his pragmatism. They also say that this facination with the Obama Ayers connection is nonsensical and dumb b/c Ayers has served on boards with both republicans and democrats.
As for Ayers not paying for his crimes, he unfortunately got off due to illegal wiretapping and other activities engaged in by the prosecution which got the case thrown out. That’s our legal system.
Yes, we survived 8 yrs of Bush Jr., if only barely.
Finally, on Bush and McCain being the same, I’m talking about policies, which Sen. McCain is proposing and defending, that the last administration put forth. That’s what makes him the same. If Sen. McCain had run on his 2000 platform, I would probably be more inclined to vote for him, because back then, he made sense. Now, he just sounds like a rehashed version of Bush Jr. He’s abandoned his opposition to many of Bush’s policies and embraced them wholeheartedly, that’s what makes him the same.
As for Obama being the same as Carter, I doubt it. Carter was a fool. Obama is more like Bill Clinton, and despite my disagreements with him, and the many things I think he did wrong, at the end of his 8 yrs, the country was far better off than it was when he came into office, which is something that can never be said of George W. Bush. Had a republican stood up and repudiated Bush’s policies and record, he would be in a better position to win, not only independents but also some democrats. However, Sen. McCain, rather than focus on the issues, has tried to drag the campaign to the mud repeatedly. I mean, when the secret service is investigating people at your campaign rallies for screaming that Obama is a terrorist, or saying he should be killed, and you do nothing to put an end to that, that says a lot about your character, or lack thereof.
Recently?
Liddy said it a long time ago and it was about ATF agents who busted into homes unannounced and guns drawn. He said if they bust into your house and you defend yourself aim for the head because they wear vests.
We have to defend ourselves against tyrannical government. It is our duty.
Liddy does not have to repent, he served his time. He paid so why does he need to be repentant?
The rest is conjecture and opinion. All are entitled. We will see how things turn out regardless of who wins. I would not want to see an Obama as president but if he wins then we can finally get rid of jackson, Sharpton and the NAACP because things are now equal. We will also get to see how things go and if they are screwed up you all won’t have Bush to blame. BTW, the financial crisis is largely due to Democrats blocking tighter control Bush called for on 17 Occasions.
The Dems, including The One were lining their pockets. Obama has a paper thin resume and little experience, even his running mate said so.
I hope you look at any progress made by Sen. Obama and acknowledge it once he is in office. I won’t hold my breath though, as you seem more interested in fostering vile partisanship than in problem solving. I like how you blame the democrats for this, even as most experts say that there is more than enough blame to go around (meaning both democrats and republicans). I also like your quasi race bating there by suggesting that because one African American gets elected, all is well in our country. See, unlike you, I hold no ill will to either side, even if I do think both sides and their partisan hacks are fools. If you don’t believe me, just look at our conversation above, I recycled most of that from democrat arguments, and it worked perfectly with your conservative talking points…I bet I could recycle your stuff and use it to great effect in that bastion of ignorance known as Daily Kos to great effect. You and them are two sides of the same coin, more interested in defending party and doctrine than in solving any real problems.
Whoever you are, use one name and stick with it. You are not me and you are posting under many different names. Pick one or I will pick one for you.
If you had bothered to read anything I have written I have put the blame on both parties. Time and again I said there was enough blame to go around. It is the Democrats (Nancy Pelosi) who said they had nothing to do with it. It is Obambi who said it is the failed policies of the last 8 years. They are all putting it on Bush when there are many players. Fact is, Democrats started the mess and they continued to defend it. Watch the video in the sidebar and you will see them defending it and crying racism.
I have plenty of plans to solve problems. I have better health care ideas than either one but then again that is my profession. I am interested in solving problems (once again, read) but I don’t believe Obama is the solution. I don’t think McCain is the answer but I align with some of his beliefs and none of Obama’s. I will never vote for Communism.
I have, but everything you write is so slanted, that although you “blame” both parties, it invariable always turns into a right-wing partisan rant. To boot, even your last comment is so partisan that it reveals a close mindedness that would baffle any objective observer. I mean, you say, “I will never vote for Communism” and yet, you vote republican even though not only did the current republican president expand the US government more than any other administration since WWII, but his administration is now inserting itself into the market, and on its way to essentially nationalizing banks. This, while Senator McCain also pushes for the US to buy home mortgages and take responsibility away from Americans who got themselves in trouble. All that combined, is socialism at its worst, and yet, you continue to assert that Obama is the socialist. It’s unbelievable. In any case, I’m wasting my time with you since it is doubtful you’ll change your partisan ways, still I thought someone should at least point to the asinine nature of your posts. In any case, have a good day. 🙂
Of course what I write is slanted. I am a conservative so it is slanted in that direction. If I vote for McCain (I have the luxury of voting for whom I want because bin Laden would win in Maryland if he has a D next to his name) it will be because of Palin. I do not think McCain is a conservative but he is a hell of a lot more so than Obama. Yes, the bail out bill was socialist and I pointed that out in my opposition to it.
McCain has served this country, Obama has served himself. When it gets down to it I will vote for the one who has at least a few of the same philosophies as I (Obama and i do not agree on anything politically) and he is for murdering babies even if they are born alive. McCain would never do that and neither would Palin.
Out of curiosity, why would I change my partisan ways? I guess you expect me to be in the middle and not have positions on issues. It does not work that way. I am conservative and have partisan viewpoints. I do not espouse the mental disorder that is liberalism.
Why don’t you go complain to the folks at Daily Kos. They are non partisan /sarc
Or is it because they are liberals so they are correct, progressive and right in the middle? Get real.
Actually, I’ve gotten various accounts canceled at Daily Kos due to the fact that I call them on their asinine and partisan writing. Same goes for Red State and others, and yes, I’d rather have dispassionate, non-partisan analysis than slanted arguments on either side, because both tend to end up blaming the other and painting them as evil, if not outright dangerous, which doesn’t help our country, particularly in solving problems that we all face. Frankly, I’m tired of it.
Well, you should save your criticism for the newspapers and other media. Blogs are personal journals and they reflect the opinions of the people who own them. If you want me to write objective news then you need to find a company willing to pay me lots of money to do it. Otherwise, I will continue to write what I want just as I expect Kos to do.
I don’t agree with what they write but I will die defending their right to write it.