I Was Profiled In Arizona
by Big Dog on Aug 8, 2010 at 21:40 Political
I am in Arizona to attend a conference (no boycott here) and something quite troubling happened to me. I was asked for my identification. In fact, I was asked for my ID several times within the first hour of being in the state. I was asked for identification when I picked up my rental car and then I was asked for my identification when I checked into the hotel. Fortunately for me I had identification that meets the Arizona requirement to assume I am here legally. I am, of course, an American citizen and would not have been insulted if I had no ID and they checked my immigration status.
It is quite obvious that I do not meet the demographic of an illegal in this part of our country but we cannot single out people based on what they look like because that would be profiling and even though profiling is an important part of police work, it is not allowed unless the government wants to go after conservatives. Then it is OK for them to put out reports that profile certain groups of people and decide that they might be domstic terrorists based on the profile.
That is the only time it is allowed. Nearly all acts of terrorism over the last 20 years or so have been committed by Middle Eastern men between the ages of 18 and 45. Armed with that handy bit of information our government refuses to give closer scrutiny to that group so as not to offend the people most likely to commit terror. Instead the government would rather harass little old ladies. As far as I know, little old ladies have never been involved in terrorist acts here in the US.
I had no problem showing my ID in Arizona. The truth is I am asked for my ID thousands of times a year. I was asked for my ID by TSA today before I was allowed to board the aircraft. If I did not have ID they could have denied me entry or detained me. I am asked for my ID when I travel, cash a check, use a credit card, when I got my license, when I took my nursing license exam and my specialty certification exam, my EMT exam, and I was asked to show my ID when I applied for (and when I renewed) my passport. I was even asked for ID when I opened a bank account and the information collected was shared with DHS. If I did not do things right I would have suffered the consequences. Illegals, on the other hand are not suffering enough yet because they keep coming here.
Those are perfectly OK in the eyes of our government and if I did not have ID the government would be OK with anything negative that happened as a result of not having the ID. Arizona asked me for ID and I would have been refused my car and my hotel room without it.
But ask certain other groups for ID and then have consequences for anyone who does not have it and all hell breaks loose.
Only in the backwards world of progressives can the government side with illegals and another country against a state for actually upholding the law and at the same time ignore sanctuary cities who by definition break the law and encourage others to do so.
How does the left justify this?
As for you Arizona, I was happy to provide my ID and did not consider it profiling, racial or otherwise. I considered it following the rules…
Cave Canem!
Never surrender, never submit.
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Tags: arizona, ID, laws, Obama, profiling
Asking for ID is different from racial profiling.
Racial profiling is singling out a person because of his race.
Take Obama for instance.
We’ve had 46 white presidents and not one of them was ever asked to show documentation or proof of citizenship.
Along comes the first dark skinned president and Conservatives are demanding he show proof that he was born in Hawaii.
That’s racial profiling…singling out one person for special questioning just because his skin is dark.
Well Norris, let’s see. Barry Goldwater ran and there was question about eligibility but he did not win. John McCain was born in Panama and all the liberals said he was not qualified. McCain provided a birth certificate and the Congress deemed he met the qualifications.
I had to show my birth certificate to get into baseball, to get a passport and to get my job. Is it too much to ask to see his to ensure he meets the qualifications of his job.
Point about racial profiling, it is not profiling to ask for ID. So, by your own admission, the Arizona law does not racially profile. Cops ask for IDs and if the person produces one he is considered legal. If he does not and the officer suspexcts he is legal then he can ask for proof of citizenship. People who are here legally and who are not citizens are required to carry their papers at all times.
How did Arizona do anything wrong?
And as Schatzee said, Obama admitted to spending a lot of time overseas as a child and we know his father was a British subject. People have said that Obama as born in Kenya. Is it too much to ask for him to show his BC? I would think ALL candidates (regardless of color) would have to show proof of eligibility.
If he had a legit birth certificate, why not show it amd make the whole mess go away?
You see, THAT’S where the “conspiracy nuts” get their fodder- from the rectum in chief himself- he could have made it go away, but noooooooooooooooooooo-
Don’t you think it has more to do with the fact that he has lived overseas (and that was common knowledge from his own published writings) than the fact that he is dark skinned? Come on, I think that is really stretching it. And racial profiling actually has to do with law enforcement endeavors – not qualifications for public office. Anyone wanting to run for public office may (and should) be required to prove that they meet the specific qualifications for that office. If that offends them, they shouldn’t run.
Let’s stop saying Obama hasn’t presented a birth certificate or given proof of his eligibility. He has. We’ve all seen it. He has presented a copy of the legal form of certificate used by Hawaii and has been certified as valid by Hawaii state officials. Any suggestion that his released copy is a forgery is without evidence.
The suggestion that Obama has done something others can’t do is also false. Obama’s released copy is the same form of certificate that I have. I have never seen nor have I needed a long form certificate or the “vault copy” that some of you even ask for. I have used this same document to get into college, a drivers license, a job, and a passport.
Obama was born in the United States and is the legitimately elected President of the United States.
Of course you have no evidence to back up your assertion that we have all seen the released copy. That copy did not come from Hawaii. They have not released one. Daily Kos published it. Why would they publish it instead of the Obama website? The form you discuss is not official in Hawaii for many transactions. The form I have like it was not valid when Igot my passport.
The director in Hawaii did not certify any such thing. What that person said is there is a copy n file in accordance with Hawaiian laws. That is a nuanced statement and we have a person who worked there who says there is not one on file.
Release a birth certificate not a certificate of live birth.
Obama has th real one, he said so in his book.
Adam, he could make a lot of people look like fools if he just released one. It matters not what you think, let us deal with the transparency issue. He is not being transparent. Your first clue should be that it was released through Kos. Second clue, he has not released the certified vault copy. I notice that a lot of Dems, when they were worried McCain might win, said he was not eligible and demanded proof. He provided it.
We deserve the same consideration.
So until then, this is in the not satisfied column.
I also think that if we later find out (like if someone breaks into the Hawaii place and steals it) he should be jailed for life as should anyone who participated.
I challenge Obama to make people look like fools. I welcome it as I only seek the truth, something he is incapable of providing.
You can keep saying he was born here and legitimately elected but that has yet to be proved. Why did people look for ways to get a non natural born elected before Obama ran. Why did the guy who peeked into his files get murdered? Coincience, maybe but prove me wrong.
Obama is not man enough to do that.
“That copy did not come from Hawaii. They have not released one.”
Why would Hawaii release one?
“The form you discuss is not official in Hawaii for many transactions.”
Which transactions? Do you have sources to back that up?
“What that person said is there is a copy n file in accordance with Hawaiian laws.”
Actually this was said:
“Why did the guy who peeked into his files get murdered?”
Yes, just like all those people Clinton had killed right?
“You can keep saying he was born here and legitimately elected but that has yet to be proved.”
I’ve seen the online scan of the certificate and photographs of the actual document. I’ve seen the birth records placed in local papers from vital statistics. I’ve seen the statements from Hawaii officials as to Obama’s birth and citizenship. But yes, other than that I have no proof Obama was born in Hawaii…
Afraid not, the birth announcements were automatically generated. Any false form or one filled out for a supposed birth at home would trigger the announcement.
Photographs of what? Hawaii never printed the COLB and released it. It was manufactured and distributed by Kos or someone in cahoots with him. If you want, I could produce a photograph of a COLB showing he was born anywhere.
The Hawaiian website listed a number of native land transactions for which a COLB is not sufficient.
You mean the same person who said she was not allowed to comment on any specific records?
And her original statement was that it was on file in accordance with the law which is evasive:
“Therefore, I as Director of Health for the State of Hawai‘i, along with the Registrar of Vital Statistics who has statutory authority to oversee and maintain these type of vital records, have personally seen and verified that the Hawai‘i State Department of Health has Sen. Obama’s original birth certificate on record in accordance with state policies and procedures,” Fukino said.
Source
And that to which you link is nuanced as well.
So,it has yet to be proved. Funny how the Bush went to war for oil crowd and all the he lied about WMD folks are OK with the lies that are out about the BC.
Show me the same thing I was required to show when I joined the Army. Nothing less will do whether you like that or not.
Transparency. He should try it. Perhaps we could see what this official has seen?
I would think Hillary would be the one who would do the wet work- she has the mindset and taste for it- Billy likes some of the other deadly sins.
And if everybody BUT Hussein presents the “birth certificate”, or the COLB ( which is NOT a birth certificate), the question still lingers, as it’s Dems who love to concoct a good conspiracy.
Ahhh- if only Vince Foster could speak, the people he might implicate- perhaps that is why he was killed.