John Murtha Dead From Gallbladder Complications
by Big Dog on Feb 8, 2010 at 15:39 Political
Congressman John Murtha of Pennsylvania died today after devolping complications following gallbladder surgery. The controversial politician was 77 years old.
John Murtha had a taste for pork, often loading bills with tons of it and ensuring that his district received untold amounts of taxpayer money for frivolous, and often questionable, items including a self named airport that has around six flights per day.
The amount of pork Murtha gobbled up in taxpayer money must have contributed to his demise as the gallbladder aids in the digestion of fats. Considering how much pork Murtha was responsible for, his gallbladder just could not handle it.
I have said a number of times that the only way to get rid of these lifers is for them to die off. I don’t wish them death but if that is the only way to get them out of office it is better if they die off sooner rather than later. I will not miss this horrible excuse for a human being.
It is sad the way his life turned out. He started as an Eagle Scout and a highly decorated Marine and turned into a common criminal.
First Teddy Kennedy and now John Murtha. Things happen in threes so who will be the third to go?
My money is on Robert Byrd.
Source:
FOX News
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“Murtha served 37 years in the Marines, and has Purple Hearts to his name. He visits wounded soldiers at Walter Reed every week. Three years ago, he won the Semper Fidelis Award of the Marine Corps Foundation, the highest honor the Marines can confer. Every time you think these Republicans can sink no lower, even after their vile smears against Kerry’s service…, they keep going. They make me sick to my stomach.”
–2009, Andrew Sullivan, libertarian, conservative
Murtha was also an unindicted coconspirator and under investigation for ethics violations.
I did write he started off as an Eagle Scout and a Marine and ended up a criminal.
All true.
As for smearing Kerry’s service, it was all true. Kerry came back and smeared HIS OWN service and the service of many better men than he when he lied about them before Congress.
And Andy can just be sick. Eff him too.
Dar:
That’s right you get on your high horse. But occasionally you should be reminded of this.
http://www.binscorner.com/pages/d/death-threats-against-bush-at-protests-i.html
You know maybe Murtha and Kerry were honorable men when they were in the military but whatever honor they had was canceled out from too many years spent in Washinton with all the other criminals who are stealing our money. I didn’t even have very much respect for McCain who is supposed to be such a big war hero, not when he is so eager to reach across the isle to the Democratic Socialist Party of America. That’s right the Democratic Socialist Party of America. There are things in this country that there are not compromises for relative to the whims of the whiners and complainers and legalized theft is one of them.
And the funny thing is the left smeared McCain every chance they got and that was OK and he was more of a war hero than Kerry and Murtha combined.
Before you cry about McCain being smeared just get in line and wait your turn behind all the Democrats that Republicans like yourself will smear for political points. You’ve smeared Kerry, Murtha, Wesley Clark, and even Jim Webb. We all know the score. We know you don’t really consider it good service to the country unless you come home and work as a Republican.
Good service? How come it is only good service if they are Dems. Clark, relieved of duty, Kerry a ohony who got out early because of a scratch and then maligned his fellow service members, Murtha was a crook regardless of what he did in the past and Webb wrote strange things about sex with children.
McCain was maligned by you guys. There are vets who are Democrats and are honorable. The ones you listed were not.
And you never seemed to care much about maligning a person who served when you all went after Bush, who served more than you did.
Bush? Get real. At least he did serve a little, I guess. That’s more than we can say for Dick Cheney and Rush Limbaugh, the biggest yellow elephants ever possibly.
Sorry, but I respect McCain for his service and have never said anything bad about it. You on the other hand have attacked every Democrat I listed. But like I said, we both know the score.
I won’t defend the various ethics scandals that plagued Murtha but I also won’t let you pretend you haven’t smeared the service of EVERY prominent Democrat you know of who has served.
BD has smeared some of the worst of the worst here- don’t kid yourself- by dying, Murtha just “saved or crerated” a bunch of money he will never be able to appropriate- that is a plus, in my book.
I don’t like how he died, as I am too familiar with the exact same problem- it is an agonizing death-
Oh well-
Stuff happens, and it happens to the bad as well as the good.
Murtha will always remind me of “Mean” Jean Schmidt and her lie about the message from Colonel Danny Bubp in Congress when she said “cowards cut and run, Marines never do.” Yet another classless Republican liar. There’s a lot of them about…
And Murtha will always remind me of when he said our Marines were engaged in cold blooded murder.
Murtha was a classless liar.
There are a lot of them on the left.
Bigd: “Murtha was a classless liar.”>>
DAR
There is a clinical name for what you are doing.
It’s called projection.
I thought your Ted Kennedy post was respectful when he died. It showed some class. But here you show no such compunction. You reveal yourself to be a vile and thoroughly disgusting human being. Crapping on a man the day he dies.
D.
Look who’s talking.
No, actually he crapped on himself- as I have said, it is not a great way to go, but it still doesn’t change the fact that BD is right- Murtha was a “classless liar”, calling his own constitutients “racists and bigots”, he sounded remarkably like Adam- perhaps they share the same family tree.
News for you Darrel, this POS crapped on my comrades in arms when he called the Marines cold blooded murderers.
He was a classless liar. I saod nothing bad about this guy in the post, only that the amount of pork is probably what killed him though now I hear his bowel was nicked during the procedure. Full of crap in life and in death.
I did not crap on him, I just did not make a big deal or pretend that I was bothered by hios death. I did the same with Kennedy. I made no bones that I was not crying over his death just that I did not want people calling him names or reveling in it at my site.
No one has reveled in Murtha’s death here but he dissed better men than he and he did not apologize even when he was shown to be wrong.
So screw you if you don’t like the post and screw you if you feel it was in poor taste.
You are free to project your ass out of here and haunt some other place.
“News for you Darrel, this POS crapped on my comrades in arms when he called the Marines cold blooded murderers.”
Of course he didn’t call them cold blooded murderers. You and others like to alter what he said to make it look worse. What he said is:
In fact from what I can tell the only one saying Murtha used the word murder are those outraged by Murtha’s statements.
So how does Murtha’s real statement differ from what little is clear about what went on in Haditha? At least 15 noncombat civilians were killed by Marines. Murder charges have been dropped and the charges that persist still deal with the reality that the Marines killed civilians.
The charges that remain are politically motivated.
Killing in cold blood is murder you dumb ass.
“The charges that remain are politically motivated.”
Right, go ahead and defend your own for the killing of civilians. Good work. Sure, Murtha was the bad guy here for calling it what it was and of course I’m a dumb ass for reminding you that Murtha never used the word ‘murder’. Don’t let Mike see you talk like that. That old block of tofu might start to think name calling is allowed around here.
Adam:
Right, go ahead and defend your own for the killing of civilians.
Mike:
As you so often state, Adam, prove it.
Adam:
Good work. Sure, Murtha was the bad guy here for calling it what it was and of course I’m a dumb ass for reminding you that Murtha never used the word ‘murder’. Don’t let Mike see you talk like that. That old block of tofu might start to think name calling is allowed around here.
Mike:
If not murder then what is Murtha accusing them of?
“As you so often state, Adam, prove it.”
Prove what?
“If not murder then what is Murtha accusing them of?”
Your speculation is as good as mine. He did not however call the Marines “cold blooded murderers.”
In fact if you read the quote he’s talking more about the breaking point of the military than he is accusing specific Marines of murder. But of course military Democrats have a different set of rules for how they need to speak about their fellow soldiers lest they be called dishonorable by Republican chicken hawks.
Adam:
Prove what?
Mike
Proved that our marines killed innocent civilians in cold blood.
Adam:
Your speculation is as good as mine. He did not however call the Marines “cold blooded murderers.”
Mike:
My speculation is: Murder, as defined in common law countries, is the unlawful killing of another human being with intent (or malice aforethought), and generally this state of mind distinguishes murder from other forms of unlawful homicide.
Let’s not quibble over semantics. He accused them of murder.
“Proved that our marines killed innocent civilians in cold blood.”
This is a matter of public record.
“Let’s not quibble over semantics. He accused them of murder.”
He accused them of killing in cold blood. Cold blood does not imply murder. Whether the killings were murder or not was to be decided by the courts and they of course found no one guilty of murder.
And for the record I don’t think Murtha was entirely justified in what he said in relation to the timing of the thing. My only argument is Murtha did not make his statement with the intention of smearing those involved or in offending any other military personal. This has been taken that way, out of context, by Republicans like Big Dog who love to smear a Democrat any way they can when it comes to the military.
Big Dog, what are you thinking? I’m with Adam on this one.
“Our troops overreacted because of the pressure on them, and they killed innocent civilians in cold blood.”
That sounds much more like he’s saying they are guilty of shoplifting to me.
You are correct Mike. What was I thinking? Now that you pointed it out he was talking about shoplifting.
Damn that Adam, he had to go and make murder shoplifting…
“He accused them of killing in cold blood. Cold blood does not imply murder.”
As I have said before do you listen to yourself? No wonder this country is in the shape it is in. Killing in cold blood is what terrorists and serial killers do to their victims. It is a line used to describe murderers who do it in a particularly savage and brutal fashion with absolutely no feelings or conscience whatsoever.
“No wonder this country is in the shape it is in.”
Yes, it’s all my fault. I admit it.
“It is a line used to describe murderers who do it in a particularly savage and brutal fashion with absolutely no feelings or conscience whatsoever.”
The same rules for murder do not necessary apply to soldiers in combat and we all know that. That’s why it was not an open and shut case. You and the rest have taken Murtha for meaning the worst in order to further a political agenda. It’s not the first time conservatives have done it and it won’t be the last.
Now here is a critical thinker:
From the WSJ Opinion Archives
by JAMES TARANTO
Thursday, May 18, 2006 5:00 P.M. EDT
‘In Cold Blood’
“What happened in Haditha we know not, but we can tell you that Murtha’s description is false, for the simple reason that it is self-contradictory. If the Marines “overreacted,” then the killings were not premeditated. They could not have killed both in the heat of the moment and in cold blood. Murtha therefore either is slandering the Marines by exaggerating their guilt or making excuses for horrific war crimes.
Why would he do such a thing? The key is that phrase “because of the pressure on them.” They’re depraved on account of they’re deployed: Murtha seeks to maximize the evil of the alleged crimes while simultaneously deflecting blame from the actual perpetrators to those who have applied “pressure” to them–i.e., civilian leaders in the executive branch.
Sound familiar? This was just what John Kerry did back in 1971, when he told tales (many of them false) of war crimes in Vietnam. Yet in his own mind, he wasn’t accusing troops of anything, as he explained in a 2004 CNN interview:
I was accusing American leaders of abandoning the troops. And if you read what I said, it is very clearly an indictment of leadership. I said to the Senate, where is the leadership of our country? And it’s the leaders who are responsible, not the soldiers. I never said that. I’ve always fought for the soldiers.
War crimes do, of course, exist, even if Kerry told fabricated stories. To excuse war criminals by denying that soldiers are responsible for their actions is an insult to everyone who has ever worn a military uniform and conducted himself honorably and lawfully.”
“They could not have killed both in the heat of the moment and in cold blood.”
That author is completely wrong. In Cold blood does not imply premeditated though it can go hand-in-hand.
Here is some “critical thinking” for you to consider as well:
This was and still is a political attack on Murtha and Democrats.
“Congressman Murtha’s clear concern was the stress that constant rotations and daily ambushes were having on the troops in general and the Marines in particular.”
You missed the point of the article–either those marines killed in cold blood and if they did it is a war crime and there is no deflecting the blame and there is no excuse such as “pressure and stress.” It was yet another political grandstand to say Bush was putting the troops under such extreme pressure that now they were folding and going on killing rampages and killing innocent civilians and children. Never mind who it hurts in the process least of all the soldiers involved. Just like never mind who it hurts when Reid gets up there and says,”THIS WAR IS LOST.”
Oh yeah Adam, love to smear all Democrats when it comes to the military.
No just the ones who are pathetic leaders and who do not support the troops.
Murtha said what he did and he was wrong. He never apologized and his actions were a case of undue influence.
I am not said he is dead. Good riddance.
Hey jackass, I can talk about them and their service or lack thereof and you in no way can imply I am a chicken hawk. Any American can talk about it as they wish. In case you don’t remember, better men than you made sure the First Amendment was and is protected.
You have plenty of them on the left.
Adam whatever I do here is allowed for me.
And Murtha did say they were murderers. You are not bright enough to understand what a cold blooded killer is.
Murtha disparaged the Marines and now so did you with the defending my own for killing civilians.
Of course, you and the rest of the Che T shirt wearers defend the 9/11 attackers and justify their actions with excuses of they are mad at us for our presence blah, blah.
You make excuses for those who attack our country and then disrespect those who fight for us. Shame on you coward. You are no better than Murtha.
Actually, he is better because he is a dead liberal.
Bigd: “And Murtha did say they were murderers.”>>
DAR
No he didn’t. When you say someone said something, it isn’t too much to ask that they ACTUALLY said what you are claiming they said. And he didn’t.
Someday maybe you will learn to quote people accurately and not make stuff up. It is the source of a lot off your errors and bogus conclusions. A simple disregard for honesty with language. Language has enough errors and misunderstanding built into it and it isn’t useful when on top of this you purposely cling to claims that are on their face, objectively, false.
It’s actually important to be accurate.
Murtha did not say they were murderers.
D.
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“Errors, like straws, upon the surface flow; He who would search for pearls must dive below.” –John Dryden (1631-1700)
Killed them in cold blood. Our language has meaning, just as ou say and to kill someone in cold blood is to murder. Murtha said that they did something wrong, not made a mistake or killed with justification.
In Cold Blood Deals with the Murder of a farmer
When Olberman used the phrase he equated it to a crime.
And this description certainly means murder.
I know what Murtha said and I know what he meant. He never tried to clarify it because he called them murderers.
Unless of course his words have different meaning than those which others have used to describe murder.
Someday I need to teach you how to research things. It could save you a lot of effort on the spin spin spin.
“I will not excuse murder and that what’s happened,” Murtha told ABC News chief Washington correspondent George Stephanopoulos. “This investigation should have been over two or three weeks after the incident.” ABC News.
D.
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“On December 21, 2006, the US military charged Wuterich with 12 counts of unpremeditated murder against individuals and one count of the murder of six people “while engaged in an act inherently dangerous to others”.
wiki on Wuterich.
So what is your point and since you and Adam don’t like to think Murtha meant murder when he said “they killed in cold blood.” How about massacre because he most certainly used the word massacre which is actually worse than murder and definitely cold blooded.
Oct. 4, 2007, 2007
Hearing officer: drop murder charge against Marine Wuterich
Marines recommend no murder charge in Haditha case
Thu Oct 4, 2007 4:39pm EDT
[EXCERPT:]
SAN FRANCISCO, Oct 4 (Reuters) – An investigating officer has recommended that no murder charges be brought against U.S. Marine Corps Staff Sgt. Frank Wuterich in connection with a massacre of civilians in the Iraqi town of Haditha in 2005.
May 19, 2006
Rep. John Murtha: calls Haditha a massacre
THE SITUATION ROOM with Wolf Blitzer
Aired May 19, 2006 – 19:00 ET
[EXCERPTS:]
BLITZER: There’s an investigation of what happened at Haditha. …you’ve suggested this week that there in effect was a massacre. …
MURTHA: Well there was. There’s no question about it…
BLITZER: The Marines say they’re still investigating. They don’t know what happened yet. The pentagon says the same thing. How do you know what happened?
MURTHA: Wolf, you read the “Time” magazine articles. There are pictures, there are photos. You don’t have to talk to the military about the proof.
Update for Victoria. He said murder. See my citation from ABC above.
I have not smeared the service of any fo them. I have thanked some of them in writing for their service but I have also pointed out the problems they have had. Kerry is no hero. He dishonored himself and his fellow service members when he LIED about them.
If pointing that out is smearing then i am guilty.
You smeared Bush about his service in the past and the funny thing is he had more than you or Obama so perhaps you should stick to something you are actually qualified to talk about.
Might be quiet here.
AMF.
Since Murtha did use the word ‘murder’ at some point in interviews then I’ll take back my argument that he did not mean murder when he simply said ‘killed in cold blood.’ I think he was wrong to make the statements at that time and he should have been more careful.
Yet, to paint Murtha as having smeared Marines is still ridiculous. Murtha believed he was standing up for the well-being of the troops and our country while at war and if a Republican had said those things you would be fine with it. You have different rules for Republicans and Democrats when it comes to the troops no matter what the Democrats service was.
I know how to research Darrel. Murtha was talking about the entire squad and all but one have been acquitted. We will see what happens but Murtha exerted undue influence to the proceedings.
Murtha was worthless and raped the taxpayer.
He can now spend Satan’s money.
No Adam, if a Republican had said it I would have felt the same way.
We have this presumption of innocence in this country. Murtha and his ilk will have that for underwear bombers but not for our Marines. Get real.
He should not have weighed in and should have let due process work it out.
He did it to play politics with Bush and the war and he used the Marines as pawns.
Not noble at all.
Bigd: “We have this presumption of innocence in this country. Murtha and his ilk will have that for underwear bombers but not for our Marines.”>>
DAR
I wonder if Bigd sees the irony of saying this after what he has said about Murtha.
D.
There is no irony. I am not in a position to influence the outcome of a judicial proceeding.
The presumption of innocence is for courts and legal proceedings. People not involved in that have no obligation to presume innocence.
And Murtha said what he did and he exerted undue influence on the judicial process as a member of the legislative branch and a guy who oversaw the armed forces.
I like the way The Patriot Post put it:
While we praise Murtha’s personal service to the Marine Corps (or as the commander in chief would say, “Marine Corpse”), which spanned nearly four decades on active duty and as a reservist, we cannot condone his behavior once he went from serving his country on the field of battle to representing his district and nation in the halls of Congress. Too often did he epitomize the “culture of corruption” that his good friend Nancy Pelosi hypocritically opposed.