Judicial System Costs A Teen Her Life
by Big Dog on Aug 23, 2011 at 12:14 Commentary, General
A Chicago teen, Charinez Jefferson, was murdered by a gang banger who saw her walking with a member of a rival gang. Gang banger Timothy Jones fired shots at the two and his rival ran from the scene leaving Jefferson to fend for herself (what a real man this guy is).
Jones pointed his gun at Jefferson as she begged for her life explaining that she was pregnant. Jones shot her in the head and then pumped more rounds into her body. She died and her unborn child is in critical condition.
The anti gun nuts in this country will blame the weapon for the crime but the weapon was used by a person who should not have had it (criminals do NOT obey the law) and who should have been in jail. Charinez Jefferson was the victim of a liberal judicial system that refuses to incarcerate felons. Jones has a long rap sheet.
A police source said that Jones was a “stick-up man” well known to area police. At the time of the shooting, Jones was serving 2 years of probation for a 2010 burglary conviction, Dillon said. He also has a “lengthy” juvenile record, including convictions for unlawful use of a weapon, possession of a stolen motor vehicle, and burglary. Chicago Tribune
Jones should have been in jail. He was well known to police and had a history of violence, criminal activity and use of weapons. Why was this thug on the street?
He was on the street because of a judicial system that allows judges who live in protected communities to be lenient on people who have shown they are unworthy of freedom.
Charinez Jefferson was murdered and her child is in critical condition because a judge or judges refused to put the animal who eventually murdered her in a cage where he belongs.
And since Chicago has one of the most stringent gun laws in the country, Jefferson and others are not allowed to carry guns for their own protection.
They are prey to people like Jones who refuse to obey the law and who are coddled by the lax judicial system.
Cave Canem!
Never surrender, never submit.
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Tags: chicago, guns laws, lax judicial system, murder, Second Amendment
The US already incarcerates more people than any country in the world. By all means let’s imprison even more. Lifetime sentences for everybody so that we make sure no single person ever slips through the cracks to repeat offend. Problem solved.
So Adam, do you contend that we should be more like other countries? How about we cut off hands for robbery? How about the death penalty for adultery or rape? If you want to be like another country you can’t pick and choose.
Perhaps we incarcerate more people because liberal policies have removed any concept of respect for the rule of law. You guys don’t care too much for the law and teach children to disregard it all the time. Your stance on illegal immigration is a proime example. Our children are excused because they come from single family or drug addicted families (both because of liberal polices) or that they are a victim so they are not responsible.
These kids grow up to believe they can do what they want. They do that and end up in jail.
I will admit that there are plenty of people who are in jail for things they should be allowed out on probation or home detention but that does not negate the fact that the animal in this case should have been in jail. He had a long rap sheep with violent crimes on it and it was obvious he has no regard for the law or for the well being of others. That is demonstrable and yet you have the unmitigated gall to say that putting him in jail is not the solution? What kind of ass are you? It does not matter if we incarcerate more people than any other nation and that has NO bearing on this case. No matter what other things have or are taking place, this guy SHOULD have been in jail. His record demonstrated that and now a girl is DEAD because some jackass judge felt like you.
Pick your battles wisely. Fight for individuals (not groups or numbers) who should not be in jail (like our border patrol agents who shot a man in this country illegally) and forget about fighting for animals who should be in jail.
You liberals are all alike. You think this ideal world exists where you can wish and things happen or turn out OK. Then you wonder why things went wrong when one of these animals puts a bullet in your wife’s head as she is minding her own business. Don’t blame the bad guy, he had a hard life.
At least he has a life. That young girl is dead and her baby is in critical condition. If it survives it will not have a mother. But that is OK with you so long as a POS animal does not have to be incarcerated because there are too many people in jail.
Un effing believable.
And slips through the cracks? Get real. A few instances is slipping through the cracks. When it happens over and over again it is a systemic problem.
Finally, Adam! You make some sense!
But only “some sense.” The real solution is the final solution.
1st, jail them. They get a chance to reform. “get educated.”
2nd offense, back to the wall and shot, one bullet, unmarked grave. Make ’em into cat food.
Because there should be NO THREE TIME OFFENDERS.
“If you want to be like another country you can’t pick and choose.”
That makes absolutely no sense. Of course we can look to other countries and pick and choose how we respond to crime. I’m not sure why you’d suggest otherwise.
“Perhaps we incarcerate more people because liberal policies have removed any concept of respect for the rule of law.”
No, we know it’s the war on drugs. Elements of that have specific roots in liberalism and conservatism and span decades of policy decisions. It has nothing to do with how liberals raised their kids. Sorry though. I know that’s a cute story to bolster your world view. I’m sure if we just spanked that kid more he’d never have murdered anyone…
“A few instances is slipping through the cracks. When it happens over and over again it is a systemic problem.”
I don’t disagree. Our prison system is a total disaster. That puts weaknesses in our justice system. I just know you’ve advocated for keeping people longer in the past with harsher and longer sentencing. That’s not really a solution given our current situation.
The reality is though you don’t know the back story of the alleged killer. You know only the brief history in the article. Our justice system works pretty good all things considered but it can’t get it right 100% of the time.
The reality is, there might be fewer people in jail in these other countries but they have their own problems like extreme punishements or they have big social problems because criminals are not in jail.
I also think China has more people in jail than we do and I also think that the numbers are not reported completely by other countries.
As for the liberal policies, yep it is the liberal policies of peoiple being victims that cause children to grow up criminals. It is also the liberal policies that lead to one parent familes, which are many times more likely to produce children that enter the criminal justice system.
There are people who are in jail for many reasons who probably should not be and the war on drugs is one part of that. The three strikes thing is a problem but there are plenty of people in jail not because of the drugs but because of what they did while on them.
I do advocate longer, harsher sentences for crimes that warrant it. You seem to think I advocate that for jaywalkers. Not so but this kid, back story or not, was on probation for violent crimes. There comes a time where you have to take the entire rap sheet into consideration. But make no mistake, I believe that people who commit violent crimes or certain felonies should get a long harsh sentence and not given probation, period.
We should not wait until a violent criminal kills someone like this girl until we put people in jail for a long time. Over 60% of the crimes commited are by people who have committed some other violent crime and are not in jail for one reason or another.
I am sure that it is a comfort to the familiy of the girl that the justice system works pretty well even though their loved one was murdered by a person who should have been in jail for another violent crime.
Big difference between non violent or victimless crimes and violent crimes that make people a threat to society.
“As for the liberal policies, yep it is the liberal policies of people being victims that cause children to grow up criminals.”
On what do you base the idea that victim mentality is driven by liberal policies let alone is a cause of crime? Which liberal policies are those that lead to single parent homes?
“We should not wait until a violent criminal kills someone like this girl until we put people in jail for a long time.”
So which crime is it that locks a juvenile like this up for a long time to prevent a future violent crime as an adult? When I look at what we know from the article I can’t see why you’ve concluded this a violent criminal that wasn’t dealt with correctly. This was a juvenile with a record of burglary and theft and illegal weapon use that appears to have been dealt with as a juvenile. We can’t lock up every juvenile thief that may graduate to murder someday.
Adam- the truth is that violent offenders, like Jones and others, should be put down like the mad dogs they are- I do not want ANY of my tax dollars supporting these people.
And don’t even try to talk about rehabilitating these people.
Rehab is for drug addicts, not people who commit violent crime. They should all die- then perhaps we might be able to rehab those who are not violent.
It isn’t the mentality of the victim that causes the perpetrator into action.
No one here, other than you, claims the victim causes their own crime. We say that “liberal policy has created a situation in which crime flourishes.”
Not just violent crime. All forms of crime. Crimes are not done by people who act conservatively. Criminals my say they are conservatives and even vote so, but lets face reality; CRIME, the breaking of LAWS, is an act that defines the liberal.
Obeying laws defines the conservative.
If there were no definitions to words, they would have no meanings. Liberals have unique definitions for words, and when they string these inaccurately used words together, they think they are making sense.
But the ludicrous action that results from belief in these false words leads people like Adam to say things like, “When I look at …the article I can’t see why you’ve concluded this a violent criminal that wasn’t dealt with correctly.”
Which is ludicrous because first of all, it is a forgone conclusion that he was not dealt with correctly; he was still alive, for one thing.
Being liberal means having no connection with history, no connection with taking steps to prevent, or encourage action in the future by accurately interpreting the situations of the past.
This is why liberal are unfit to make public policy, or lead people.
“We can’t lock up every juvenile thief that may graduate to murder someday. -Adam”
Oh yes we can. And when they get out and make another crime, any crime, spitting bubblegum, what ever, they get shot in the head. Crime will come to a grinding halt.
If stopping crime is not the goal, then yes you are right, it wont work.
As for you infantile question, “Which liberal policies are those that lead to single parent homes?”
That’s easy. ALL OF THEM.