Mary Landrieu; The 100 Million Dollar Whore
by Big Dog on Nov 21, 2009 at 23:55 Political
Senator Mary Landrieu of Louisiana was opposed to the Senate health care takeover plan. She said she had problems with it and that she could not vote for it. She said she was concerned about cost and the public option and all kinds of things. No doubt she was trying to impress upon the voters at home that she was a responsible person.
Well, Mary Landrieu laid down on the Senate bed and spread her legs wide open and became the 100 million dollar whore. The Democrats, in order to secure her vote, promised her at least 100 million of your tax dollars for her home state. The so called fiscally conscious Landrieu dropped her drawers and smiled.
Some folks in Louisiana might be happy that their Senator whored herself out while raping the taxpayer for more money but many folks are going to see exactly what she did and they are going to vote her out of office. The people of the country need to take a look at this and ask one simple question. If the bill is so wonderful then why did they have to spend 100 million dollars to buy Landrieu’s vote?
Now that the vote has been cast they will work on the bill to try and get something they can all agree on. Whatever they come up with America will be screwed and we won’t get 100 million dollars like Landrieu, we will get a multi-trillion dollar bill.
Americans have the best care in the world. No other nation has made the advances in medicine that we have and none of them have care that is anywhere near as good. We have issues that need to be fixed but we do not need a complete overhaul and we do not need government running it.
Barack Obama pushed this and his Democrats signed on to it. They are traitorous and should be tried for that crime and receive a punishment that is appropriate for traitors. Mary Landrieu will not need this health care plan because she is covered by her golden Congressional plan, at least until the people of Louisiana fire her.
Good thing for her that she has health care because she will need it to treat the STDs she is sure to have after becoming Barack Hussein “the long legged Mac Daddy” Obama’s street whore and selling herself to the Senate for 100 million dollars. Once a Democratic whore, always a Democratic whore.
Liberty took another hit today. How much longer can this go on before the people turn against government?
…to protect the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and Domestic.
These people are domestic enemies and should be treated as such. Vote them out of office.
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Tags: health care takeover, landrieu, Obama, whore
Bigd: If the bill is so wonderful then why did they have to spend 100 million dollars to buy Landrieu’s vote?>>
DAR
This is money she had been fighting for, for her state, for a long time. Isn’t that what senators are supposed to do? Fight for the interests of their state? Yes, I think so. She got it because she held out. Good for her. Squeaky wheel gets the grease. Now she better get in line, and stay in line (like the republicans do).
Bigd: we will get a multi-trillion dollar bill.>>
DAR
Actually, it will save trillions over the years and republicans will look like asses for not supporting it (once again).
Bigd: Americans have the best care in the world.>>
DAR
A nice slogan for a goose-stepper, but entirely false. Show me a scientific international study that supports your statement. You can’t do it, as you know (or you would have done it already). And I can, and have buried you in data showing otherwise. France for instance, kicks American bottom in nearly every category of health measurement, and it does it for far less, and it does it for everyone. Etc., etc., etc.,
Bigd: No other nation has made the advances in medicine that we have>>
DAR
There is some truth to that, maybe, unless perhaps if you start adding up the advances of enough peer countries to equal the US population. Then your claim, probably, fails. But it sounds nice, and you are probably going to believe it regardless.
Bigd: and none of them have care that is anywhere near as good.>>
DAR
Now you’re just being funny. But it’s not funny. And since you couldn’t be this dumb I am going to assume that at this point you are just being dishonest.
Over the months I have cited numerous sources, almost all solid peer reviewed science, showing your claim is not just false but ridiculously false. I have them all handy but no need to post those again, let me find some new ones. Oh, you might give this a skim. It says “spending” in the title but it covers much more than that.
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CRS Report for Congress
U.S. Health Care Spending:
Comparison with Other OECD Countries”
September 17, 2007
Excerpt:
“The United States spends more money on health care than any other country in
the Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development (OECD). The OECD
consists of 30 democracies, most of which are considered the most economically
advanced countries in the world.” –pg. 1
Dar< And what do we get for it?
Conclusion:
"…the United States has below-average life
expectancy (Figure 24) and mortality rates (Table 5). The United States has the
third-highest rate of deaths from medical errors (Figure 25) and the highest infant
mortality rate among the eight countries that report this metric similarly (Figure 26)." -pg. 65
–http://assets.opencrs.com/rpts/RL34175_20070917.pdf
See also: US Healthcare stats compared to other countries.
That’s a famous Frontline series called “Sick Around the World.”
Oh, and look. You’re in a rather small club with your belief about the US having the best care.
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Few See U.S. Health Care as ‘Best in the World’
July 24, 2009
Most Americans rate the nation’s health care as no better than average when compared with health care in other industrialized countries. Just 15% say health care in this country is the “best in the world,” while 23% rate it as “above average”; about six-in-ten (59%) view U.S. health care as either “average” (32%) or “below average” (27%).”
PEW.
That’s better than being in the 29% who don’t know that the earth goes around the sun!.
No, Senators are not supposed to extort money from the rest of us by using their votes for leverage. They are supposed to have some integrity something you are unfamiliar with.
How Americans rate their health care is not a scientific poll. You think we should change it all 73% of Americans find their health care average or better? Well Obama is polling under 50% so should we throw him out of office and get another one. After all, you are basing health care on how people feel so his tenure should based upon the same.
You like to play with the numbers but the reality is you threw average in as a bad thing. Only 27% rate it below average and 73% rate it average or better. Try reading the numbers that way.
DAR
Senators are not suppose to use their votes for leverage? Give me a break.
Bigd: How Americans rate their health care is not a scientific poll.>>
DAR
That was indeed a scientific poll but I think you meant to say that what Americans think of their health care is not a scientific analysis of the quality of health care. And I agree. I added that bit as a bonus. I have already provided no end of examples of scientific studies showing how badly American health looks when compared with the results of our peer countries.
Bigd: you are basing health care on how people feel>>
DAR
Actually I am not. I was just showing how your objectively false belief (America has best health care) is a belief held by a tiny minority (15%). And this is pleasantly surprising. Americans have a larger than life opinion of themselves. This is understandable because in many ways the American culture (Hollywood etc.) is vastly more influential than our mere population would suggest.
For fun I used to ask average American folks what they thought the US population was as a percentage of the world. Most of the time people would say 25%. Many times people would say 40%, an astonishing error.
The correct answer is about 5%.
You like to believe that none of the other countries on the planet “have care that is anywhere near as good” as in America. And you might like to believe that because you are an American it smells good when you go to the bathroom. But it doesn’t.
D.
If they need money then let them use the appropriations process to get it.
How much money is being spent all over to the whore holdouts and can we add that cost to the price of the health care legislation?
Bigd: “How much money is being spent all over to the whore holdouts”>>
DAR
Hopefully whatever is necessary, and it’s worth every penny. Getting health care costs under control is not an option. Do you have a good reason for why an appendectomy should cost 18x as much in the US, as in France? No, you don’t have a good reason because there IS no good reason.
I just donated my telescope to a garage sale raising money for a friend who just left for India to get a much needed hip replacement. She couldn’t afford the $40-50 thousand here but can afford the $8 thousand she will pay there.
D.
Perhaps it is because the doctor had to spend a quarter of a million dollars in malpractice insurance premiums to protect against frivolous lawsuits. It is certainly because LABOR costs in India are much lower in the US. Perhaps if we got rid of labor unions at major hospitals we could reduce the cost. But our labor costs will never be lower than India’s because we have a higher standard of living and people will not work for the same amount as people there will.
Why didn’t you send her to Canada? You always claim it is so wonderful and it is certainly closer.
Or maybe:
To my mind, the real answer is threefold:
1) We pay more for our medical services. But though the pharma industry is important, the real action is in wages. Our medical personnel cost vastly more than their counterparts abroad in almost every category.
2) We consume more services. Americans get shiny new facilities–my British colleagues once derisively commented that American hospitals are “like hotels”. American hospitals don’t have open wards for almost anyone. They staff at very high levels. Doctors conduct an inordinate amount of tests. We use an expensive machine rather than watchful waiting. And often, those expensive machines catch conditions that never would have turned into anything, which we then treat. Natasha Richardson probably would have lived if she’d had an accident here, because doctors would have done a cat scan, and there would have been a Medevac helicopter available. That’s tens, maybe hundreds of thousands of dollars to save a single life.
3) There are inefficiencies. I don’t mean “compared to other systems”–every system has some screwed-up illogicality that costs it money and makes patients worse off. But compared to what we could have. For example, Medicare pays for procedures, not wellness, which means that there’s a chronic undersupply of geriatricians, because the specialty isn’t particularly well paid even though the nation’s largest healthcare provider is specifically designed for old people. This is madness. But every real-world system that has attempted to pay physicians for wellness has ended up giving up in disgust.
Link
The Australian system is really pretty good.
Not according to my friends who live there.
No Darrel, you cite things from places that include questions about how people feel. You cite mortality rates from countries that do not count infants born under certain gestational periods or who die within certain time periods after birth. We count them all.
We have better cancer survival rates, better emergency care, better drugs and better equipment.
This will not save money. By your standard it might because to you Social Security and Medicare save money.
It is a fraud and a sham. You are the one goose stepping to the beat of the socialism drum.
The revolution is coming. Civil disobedience will take place.
Bigd: “You cite mortality rates from countries that do not count infants born under certain gestational periods… we count them all”>>
DAR
Nice try. This is a standard rightwing BS talking point that is constantly thrown around so it’s important to knock it down. If you had read my source carefully you would have noticed that it *specifically* said:
“[the US has] the highest infant mortality rate among the eight countries that report this metric similarly”
This was out of the 30 countries, so in the eight that measure it the same, the US comes in last. This does not comport with your claim of best health care in the world, and it’s worth pointing out.
From my notes:
“While the United States reports every case of infant mortality (according to the WHO definition), it is often claimed that some other developed countries do not due to an 2006 article in U.S. News & World Report…”
“However, all of the countries named adopted the WHO definitions in the late 1980s or early 1990s,[7] which are used throughout the European union.[8]”
So, time to update your talking points.
Bigd: “We have better cancer survival rates,>>
DAR
If you cherry pick certain categories, of course!
Bigd: better emergency care,>>
DAR
Sadly, out of necessity. People don’t use the regular and preventative less expensive care (as much as other countries) because they can’t afford it. Twenty five percent of Texas has no health insurance for pity sake. So they stay home and suffer until the last minute, then they crawl into emergency, get soaked, then (to often) pass the bill on to the rest of us.
Observe:
“Over the weekend, thousands of Texans attended what is being called the “largest free clinic ever held in the United States” to get health care they otherwise could not afford. ABC-13, a local Houston station, reported that the event showed that there is an “epidemic” of people without proper health coverage in Texas.
DR. OZ: We had no idea the overwhelming response we would have, the cries for help from the city of Houston and the state of Texas….This is the largest health mobilization in Houston since Katrina. So a national disaster which brought out this kind of response is now paralleled by a national disaster, because this is just an average day in Houston, and there are thousands of people who need help.”
Link.
There’s your best health care in the world.
Bigd: better drugs>>
DAR
Same drugs, made in the same factory by the same multi-national company and we pay 2 to 5x the price (thus subsidizing the rest of the world).
Bigd: and better equipment.”>>
DAR
Okay, could be. And *what are the results?* That’s what matters.
D.
——————–
The National Scorecard
The National Scorecard includes 37 indicators in five dimensions of health system performance: healthy lives, quality, access, efficiency, and equity. U.S. average performance is compared with benchmarks drawn from the top 10 percent of U.S. states, regions, health plans, hospitals, or other providers or top-performing countries, with a maximum possible score of 100…
Preventable mortality: The U.S. fell to last place among 19 industrialized nations on mortality amenable to health care—deaths that might have been prevented with timely and effective care.
Efficiency
Administrative costs: U.S. health insurance administrative costs as a share of total health spending are 30 percent to 70 percent higher than in countries with mixed private/public insurance systems and three times higher than in countries with the lowest rates.
Information systems: …the U.S. lags far behind leading countries, where electronic medical records are now used by nearly all physicians (98%) to improve care.”
Link.
etc.
Folks like Darrel would be amusing if the stakes weren’t so high!
Excellent post Doggie, you stayed up later than I was willing to do however. LOL 🙂
“Well, Mary Landrieu laid down on the Senate bed and spread her legs wide open and became the 100 million dollar whore.”
Are you kidding me? Equating this woman voting for cloture to her being a prostitute? Would you ever say such a thing about a male politician? No, you would not.
Yet you’ll still pretend you’re not a sexist pig after writing absolutely garbage like this…
Sure I would write something like this about a male but the context would have to be different. If it were Barney frank I would say he bent over and became the 100 million dollar whore.
I am the sexist pig? The way you remained silent when Palin was being treated differently because she is a woman (and Hillary for that matter). You are a sexist in your silence.
Sexist in my silence? That’s a good one. You have a history of attacking female politicians for their gender and not the actions they take. You know this and I know this. Trying to turn it around to make me look sexist for something I haven’t done? Well, that’s pretty weak.
BD is right- if you are going to condemn BD for saying the truth, then you really need to examine your own attitudes.
Palin was attacked because she had the temerity to be a Conservative Feminist- Hillary, because she stood in the way of the first Latte Resident ( he can’t even make up his mind if he is white or black- he’s just Marxist.
You, Dar, and Randy are all busy with your O’bama kneepads, in lockjaw over his words- (God knows it COULDN’T be his deeds- he has none)and you refuse to see reality.
Sooner or later, we are going to have to do a national curretage- a debriding of the most liberal, and therefore the most cretinous among us.
You might as well stand in line.
If I’m going to condemn Big Dog for being a sexist pig then I should do what now? Which attitudes are you referring to?
I have no history of attacking female politicians any differently than I attack male politicians. It is like the race issue, it is all racist with you because it fits your definition of racism.
This fits your definition of sexist so you will say it is sexist.
When she withheld her vote until she got money then she whored herself. If you don’t like that too bad but try to come up with something better than it was a sexist attack.
I only have this history in your distorted view of things.
Oh, I’m sorry that when you make a hateful sexist attack that I can’t come up with something better than calling it a hateful sexist attack. My bad. I’ll try harder next time. I’m sure there will be plenty more cases you being a sexist pig so I’ll have plenty of practice.
Well, BD- you need to update- Landrieu is a whore, but she is not cheap- turns out the price is 300 million.
So, did she screw everyone in the US for a dollar?
Inquiring minds want to know.
I definitely would say the same thing for a male politician. This is exactly what a prostitute would do (anything for money).
Yea Adam, there are male prostitutes as well as female prostitutes. In fact there are more of those in Congress than female.
Well Adam, I don’t call you a mush headed liberal moron even though I see you act like one quite a bit.
I am sure you would not agree with that assessment just like I don’t agree with yours. Like I told you before young fellow, you don’t get to dictate the terms. If you want to believe it fine but that does not make it true.
I don’t live life to the standards a person half my age has established based on his indoctrination in the socialist party of America.
When you grow up and have some actual life experiences then maybe you can dictate things to someone but it will never be to me.
You can try to make this about me, calling me a sexist for silence, a “mush headed liberal moron”, saying I’m too young to understand an old man like yourself, etc., but you cannot run from the statements you’ve made on this site.
When a woman does something you disagree with you smear them with a sexist slur or suggestion. When a man does something you disagree with you do not. If you want to provide examples counter to this then go ahead but here it is as far as I can tell:
You have at one time or another attacked Madonna for being a slut, Garafalo for being a skank, Hillary for being a lesbian, Speaker Pelosi, Sen. Boxer, Rep. Lee, Erica Jong, and Jane Fonda for being a “Can’t Understand Normal Thinking”, and now Sen. Landrieu for being a whore.
You attacked Kennedy by calling him a drunk, Sharpton and Jackson as race hustlers, Biden for using snuck, Olbermann as a moonbat, and Reid as a mental midget.
I havcertainly made references to certainl male’s manhood and called them names that would indicate they are feminine in nature. I have discussed metrosexuals and called people pimps. What derogatory name for men is one you would think is sexist?
Calling someone a skank or lesbian is no different than referring to Frank’s homosexuality or using the word scumbag. How many men have I said had actions that were limp-wristed?
This sexist thing is like your racist rants. If something I say disagrees with your definition (or disagrees with Obama at all) then it is racist. I don’t buy it.
Is it offensive? Sure and I mean for it to be.
I also think that Blake and I have referred to certain actions by men as whoring themselves. You never went after us for that so who is the sexist?
If only the definition of sexism and racism was based on your ability to say whatever offensive thing you want and get a pass. Too bad, right?
I welcome any more-specific examples you want to provide where you attack the sexuality of a man because you disagree with a policy decision he has made.
And I love also that you think saying a man has no balls or is limp wristed is equal to calling a woman a slut, c*** or whore. Right. Keep on deluding yourself.
Yes, it’s me, not you. You’re just being offensive, not sexist. Why can’t I just realize it’s perfectly fine to call a woman a whore who spreads her legs because of a vote in the Senate? It’s this liberal education I had, you know? I apologize…
No, because of being PAID for a vote in the Senate. People who sell themselves are whores.
“People who sell themselves are whores.”
I challenge you to find one instance on your site of you ever referring to a man as a whore.
Well, now we know that politicians are whores who have no taste, and no morals- it shouldn’t come as a surprise, I guess. It’s just disappointing to see the dissolution front and center.
The latest example to come to light is that of Arlen Specter, a Pennsylvania RINO (Republican in name only). Here
That’s Blake’s writing as far as I can tell. Blake loves to use the word whore for whomever he doesn’t like but I meant you using it, not Blake.
Funny, I thought the challenge was one instance on my site.
Well, no. That’s why I wrote “I challenge you to find one instance on your site of you ever referring to a man as a whore.”
oh gee- I am what- chopped liver? You asked for an example, but I am through doing your research for you- ever.
That is a liberal trick- try and draw us off topic in minutia, and then pick at a thread ad nauseum.
I didn’t ask for an example of any person on this site, I asked for an example by Big Dog. It’s clearly there for you to read and re-read if you’re just not getting it.
I’m sorry you’re feeling left out though. Maybe next time you can make a clearly sexist attack and explain it away with BS just like Big Dog did.
You write “I am through doing your research for you” and that makes me laugh out loud. Yes, you’re clearly quit doing your own research months ago so how dare I expect you to do mine as well, right?
It’s funny to me that you’ll post big long partisan rants full of lies, distortions and inaccuracies all splattered around what you consider to be the topic and when us tricky liberals point out problems in the post you conveniently scoff about going off topic.
Heaven forbid we hold you accountable for every invalid assertion in your post instead of those you deem as part of the topic.
No Adam, you are absolutely right- you can realize that it is ok to call a woman a whore because she spreads her legs because of a vote in the Senate. That would indeed be correct- it might seem offensive, but the actions would be true.
An example- she held out her approval UNTIL she got the money in hand- a whorish move if I ever have seen one.
There is also the small (to liberals) fact that in the Senate, while you can and should in most cases advocate for your state, you should be concerned with how your actions reflect on and are affecting the United States as a whole, considering no matter whose state we are talking about, that state is only 1/50th of the whole, and it is the WHOLE that must thrive, not just one state.
So at some point, you must say that while it might benefit my state, it would hurt the rest of the US, and therefore should not be done.
Adam, I gave you some information and I told you that I heard it in three interviews. I have read it in a few places. I also happen to know quite a few doctors at WRAMC. Perhaps some of the information I have is not in the public yet.
But publicly, there have been officers who said they did not report it because they were worried about how it would be seen.