Obama Can’t Blame It On Congress
by Big Dog on Feb 23, 2010 at 10:41 Political
Barack Obama told America that his health care plan will not pay for abortions. He specifically said ““no federal dollars will be used to fund abortions.” His words on this and illegal immigrants prompted Joe Wilson to shout “you lie.”
When Obama said this it was a lie. The House bill allowed federal dollars to be used for abortion but when asked about this later, Obama’s people said that Obama did not have control over what Congress was writing. In other words, he did not write it in, Congress did. If it had passed, Obama would have signed it regardless of what he said about federal dollars being used.
Obama has released his own plan ahead of the faux summit he will have with Republicans this week. Obama wants bipartisan support but he has written what he wants. His idea of bipartisan is when the Republicans give in to what he wants.
Interestingly, the bill Obama has put together, a clever move to take away the claim that deals were made in back rooms, will allow federal dollars to pay for abortion. Obama cannot run and hide from this one because, despite what he said about not using federal dollars for abortions, he has included them and federal dollars will pay for them. Obama an his lackeys cannot claim it was Congress because the sainted one himself included the provision in the bill he put together, one that is very close to the Senate bill.
“If all of the President’s changes were made, the resulting legislation would allow direct federal funding of abortion-on-demand through community health centers, would institute federal subsidies for private health plans that cover abortion-on-demand, including some federally administered plans, and would authorize federal mandates that would require even non-subsidized private plans to cover elective abortion,” Douglas said.
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“Every time President Obama’s spokesmen are asked about the Senate health care bill that authorizes federal funds for abortion, they reply that none of the bills put forth are the president’s own,” Donohue said. “Moreover, the president has said that he would never sign a health care bill that funds abortion.”
“While it is true that the pro-abortion camp will not be happy with the president for not striking some restrictions it deplores, the fact remains that President Obama could have adopted the pro-life friendly language of the House bill,” Donohue said. “The fact that he didn’t is what matters most.” CNS News
Obama is a liar and he will do whatever it takes to get his agenda through. Reconciliation is next where only 51 Senators are needed to pass a bill. This is an end around and designed to thwart the will of the people and the procedures of the Senate.
I predict that Obama will lose the votes he needs in the House because the Democrats who voted against it the first time will not support this plan and many more Democrats who are worried about their reelection bids in November will likely not support it out of the desire for self preservation.
If by chance it passes through the reconciliation process then the Democrats will lose control of the House and Senate and will likely not regain it for the next decade.
Americans do not like to be screwed and the Obama administration and his sock puppets in Congress are bending us over.
On the issue of abortion and federal funding it looks like the only person who told the truth is Joe Wilson who hit the nail on the head when he called out the liar in chief.
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Tags: abortion, federal dollars, joe wilson, lies, Obama, you lie
Reconciliation is a BUDGETARY process ONLY- and it is unconstitutional, as are many of the provisions in his bill- If he expects Conservatives to roll over and show their belly onthis, he is mistaken-
If a state wishes, as Mass. did, to enact Healthcare in their respective states, they can do this- but the Federal govt. cannot Constitutionally do this themselves, as they do not have the power, either legislatively, or through the Executive branch.
I am willing to show Owebama just where to stick an “Executive Order”.
Bigd: “When Obama said this it was a lie.” –factcheck link
DAR
You are plainly misreading/distorting the factcheck article. Boring.
You know, there are a lot of things that can be done to me that I can forgive, but one thing I will not tolerate is to lie to me or about me. Obama is a chronic liar; therefore, I would never trust him again.
BARB: Obama is a chronic liar>>
DAR
Still waiting for one, single, solitary demonstrated example of him supposedly “lying.” Since it’s “chronic” you shouldn’t have any trouble cherry picking your very best example.
It’s not too much to ask, and you can’t do it.
Oh, and the factcheck link in question flatly refutes the idea that there was a lie involved here.
D.
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lie
1. a false statement made with deliberate intent to deceive; an intentional untruth; a falsehood.
Yes, Darrel is saying that we cannot prove there was an intent to deceive so all the things Obama said and then did differently were not lies.
And under this rule George W. Bush told no lies.
This did not stop people from saying he lied us into war. Darrel would never defend Bush based on the Darrel rule.
Obama lied because he certainly intended to deceive us.
Bigd: “And under this rule George W. Bush told no lies.”>>
DAR
You’re right. You don’t have a lie unless you can show a “deliberate intent to deceive.” It could be a mistake, error or even delusion. But this is irrelevant since in your above example you can’t *even* show Obama was wrong and your link (once again) actually refutes your own claim.
Bigd: “Darrel would never defend Bush based on the Darrel rule.”>>
DAR
You don’t know what you are talking about and you are saying things that are not true. When the left would accuse Bush of lying I would, and did, give them the exact same challenge. People shouldn’t make claims they can’t back up. If Barb or you were on the ball you would challenge me to give an example of a Bush lie. Had you been that sharp you would have found two parts to my response:
a) I don’t call him a liar
because…
b) I cannot confirm an example
Try honesty and being accurate with your language. You might like it.
Bigd: “Obama lied because he certainly intended to deceive us.”>>
DAR
We know you can make baseless assertions. That’s the easy part. Now all you have to do is demonstrate the truth of your claim. That’s the hard part. Godspeed.
D.
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Bet I could nail Bush on this if I cared enough to do a little digging. But you could always claim he is incredibly stupid and that would probably work.
“Weapons inspections: More recently, Bush has flagrantly misrepresented the history of the prewar conflict with Iraq over weapons inspections, telling reporters on July 14, “We gave him a chance to allow the inspectors in, and he wouldn’t let them in.” In fact, after a Security Council resolution was passed demanding that Iraq allow inspectors in, they were given complete access to the country. The Washington Post (7/15/03), describing Bush’s remarkable statement, could only say that his assertion “appeared to contradict the events leading up to war this spring.” Joe Conason (Salon.com, 7/15/03) took note of “the press corps’ failure to report his stunning gaffe. The sentence quoted above doesn’t appear in today’s New York Times report, for example.”
Media Still Letting Bush Lie on Iraq Inspectors.