Obama; I Need To Earn Troops’ Trust
by Big Dog on Mar 4, 2009 at 19:57 Military, Political
Back during the campaign Obama was interviewed and he said that he would have to earn the troops’ trust. I wrote at that time that this would be hard for him to do. He has never supported the war, he has never supported the troops surge and to this day he refuses to admit it was a failure. In fact, when one listens to him speak, as he did at Camp Lejuene, one can’t help thinking he is taking credit for all the good stuff.
Obama said he had to earn the troops’ trust but he first might want to work on gaining their respect. Obama received a lukewarm, if that, response when he visited Lejuene. There were golf claps but the speech, as one commenter at BlackFive noted, had pauses in it where it looked like Obama stopped for applause but the troops did not respond to, what appeared to be applause, lines. People on the stage clapped and then the light applause trickled back through the place. It was not sustained. George Bush never received that kind of welcome. Here is a short video that compares the kind of reception Bush received with that The Evil One got.
John Kerry might think the troops are stupid and uneducated and that is why they are in Iraq but they know a poser when they see one. They were respectful enough of the office to lightly clap but that is all they did. For Bush the reception was warm and loud. God Bless these Marines. They are tough, wise, ready to fight and they love America. They are all the things Obama is not.
There were all these stories about troops giving more money to Obama and they believed in him. No one can really know who gave what because Obama accepted money from all over the world and there was no real accountability. He cooked the books in the campaign like he is cooking them now.
I doubt the troops gave him more money but one thing is certain, they did not give him much of a reception. They obviously don’t care for him and they don’t respect him. They respect the office and they acted professionally but it was not what anyone would call a rousing endorsement.
I wonder if he will wait a while before he invades another military post. That rebuke had to sting.
The troops want a Commander in Chief and instead got a Community Organizer in Chief.
Big Dog Salute to BlackFive. There are a couple of other good videos there as well.
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Tags: commander, community organizer, Marines, Obama, poser, respect, troops, trust
You realize that Obama was speaking at a formal event, while Bush was making an informal surprise visit to the troops on Labor day in the video you just showed. It’s kind of a stupid comparison.
I think I have been to enough of these to know what they are. I also know it was not formal. If it were formal they would be dressed differently. And I have been to many many formal events where the applause was a bit more enthusiastic.
It might have been more subdued but the fact is Bush received the same kind of welcome every time he visited the troops.
Did you look at the second video at BlackFive? It is more formal and look how Bush was received.
I see quite a few troops on a daily basis. They do not like him.
I think the troops should tell Obama that if he doesn’t produce his real birth certificate, they won’t serve him since they don’t know if he is their Commander-in-Chief. That would really provide some havoc.
Holy Crap Barbara – can you just imagine if the military refused to perform until they had their proof? It would be chaos – a mess – just what BO deserves for this evasion but still quite a disaster.
Holy Crap, you are still on about the birth certificate!?
Keep it up.
The Armed Forces know a dirtbag when they see one. It’s a jimmy and billy redux.
As for the birth certificate, I don’t give a rat’s ass. Obammymammy is not qualified on the basis of not showing up for work in the senate and he’s never done a damn thing in his useless, radical commie life.
Don’t like it. Pound Sand…………
What about the soldiers that did vote for Obama. I personally know quite a few of them too. How do you folks feel about them?
I think they exercised the right they fight to protect and how they voted is their business.
I completely agree, but how does that square with “the troops do not like him”. I too am in contact with several former and current troops, almost on a daily basis. Most of the military folks I know support Barack Obama. If they like him, how does the military not like him?
BTW, how others voted is their business a swell. I am happy that people exercised that right. It means I and others like me did our jobs.
I don’t have to agree with what they did but if they voted I did my job.
About 80% of the military did not vote for him. Not surprisingly, 60% of blacks voted for him (and that is not meant to be a racist statement but one of fact based on the historical nature).
I am in touch with thousands of troops over the course of a year and very few care for him. Now, the troops do not like him is not to say that all do not. Sure there will be people who like him and who liked guys who never made it to the general.
However, the overwhelming number of troops are conservative.
“as one commenter at BlackFive noted, had pauses in it where it looked like Obama stopped for applause but the troops did not respond to, what appeared to be applause, lines. People on the stage clapped and then the light applause trickled back through the place. It was not sustained.”
I believe the word is “ouch.” Score yet another one for the fine men and women in the military.
And so what if this was a “formal event”? That doesn’t mean there can’t be sustained applause following a applause line or a speech’s conclusion. Look at State of the Unions. Not exactly informal and yet frequent applauses during and after speeches. Imagine that.
Face facts. The military for the most part clearly has a problem with Obama. Considering his stupid gaffes about them, his opposition to the surge and his reluctance to visit the wounded without a camera crew, who can blame them?
It truly amazes me to no end that they showed so much support for Bush (the man that would send or had sent them into battle). You would think they wouldn’t considering that and be more supportive of the people that kept talking about bringing them home. Then again, Bush didn’t treat the military like crap. He didn’t look down on their efforts. He didn’t say idiotic things about them. He didn’t feel the need to let everyone else know of his visits to the wounded.
‘Nuff said.
I know a poser when I SEE ONE, AND OBAMA IS A POSER! If you did NOT do your time in the military! YOU ARE A POSER!
LIBERALS DONT KNOW SHIT ABOUT OUR ARMED FORCES BUT DEMAND RESPECT THAT HASNT BEEN EARNED! WHAT KIND OF BULLSH!T IS THAT!
AIRBORNE, ALL THE WAY JUMP MASTER!
“Then again, Bush didn’t treat the military like crap.”
Yeah, I guess that’s why military families were forced to take up collections to properly outfit their sons and daughters for battle.
“As you know, you go to war with the army you have, not the army you might want or wish to have at a later time.”- Donald Rumsfeld
Oh, good. Harry’s back. He doesn’t know sh!t about anything.
That’s right and what do you about the military? Bunny rabbit, what makes you think I dont know shit about anything! I happen to be a veteran of our Armed forces, how about you? I work for a living and I’m almost finished with college and own my small business! And dont expect the government to supply me welfare money stolen from the rich! I bet you are the extreme opposite of me right!????That’s all I know!!!!
So all the way dumbastard! I like to meet you in person and show what TIME IT IS!
No family was forced to do that.
Rumsfeld was right. You can’t wait until you have everything to go because sometimes it is not all there. And, if liberals would not cut military programs we would have what we needed.
Carter and Clinton were hard on us. Supplies and items got scarce.
“No family was forced to do that.”
Oh, my bad. I forgot. You know everything about the military. Therefore, you know everything about military families. Dog, how does a male nurse gain so much knowledge?
No Bunny, you are just too dense to see. No military family was FORCED to do anything. Did the military hold guns to their heads and say buy this stuff? Were they compelled to do it by threat of force? No, they decided to do it and took it upon themselves. Therefore moron, no one FORCED them to do anything.
It is not a matter of knowing the military, it is a matter of knowing the language.
Let me ask you, why do you say male nurse. Are you trying to emasculate me or something? I mean, do you say that female doctor when discussing a woman physician. Other than gender there is no difference between a male and female nurse. So you could have just asked how does a nurse get so smart?
I have quite a bit of knowledge. The question is, how does a enabling social worker gain so much disdain for people? Is it working with smart a$$ed kids all day?
No one FORCED you to be a male nurse, Doggie. Take it easy, killer.
Enabling? How so?
Was that first sentence supposed to have relevance? Was it supposed to give some impression that I should be ashamed of what I do for a living? You seem to think it is degrading to be a male and also a nurse. You never say “Big Dog you male combat medic” of Big Dog, you were a male firefighter” or “You were a male soldier” but you feel a need to try to insult me with the male nurse meme.
I never claimed I was forced to become a nurse. I chose the profession because I like the health care profession and it was a good place to transition from medic. Also, I knew there would be a shortage which means better pay. The country is short 500,000 nurses. Pay is good…
I don’t have a problem with what I do. I am good at it and probably better than anyone you know who does this for a living. I am an expert in WMD, chemical and biological weapons and the medical surveillance and treatment of people destroying the stockpile of chemical agents. I am an emergency nurse and retired combat medic. I teach people all over the country and have presented case studies to representatives of over 100 nations as well as to the Chemical Stockpile Emergency Preparedness Community.
So, if you think throwing darts and trying to insult me for being a nurse you are wrong.
I am no less manly for being a nurse than say, oh someone who works with children as a social worker. Oh wait, are you not a male social worker?
Any person who believes that a male nurse is less manly because of that profession probably would think only a pedophile would work with children…
Hey Barbara/Schatzee —
Some troops ARE starting to dissent.
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=90574
Go troops, I say. If they don’t have standing, there’s nobody left who does.
Enabling? How so?
A WMD expert you say? In your expert opinion, where are the WMD in Iraq?
I would be an expert in the treatment of casualties from various WMD. You are asking a question about something that has nothing to do with treatment of casualties.
However, we know he had them and we know he did not destroy them. We know he had them because he used them on the Iranians and the Kurds. We know they were not destroyed by him because there is no evidence that they were destroyed.
You cannot destroy chemical weapons without leaving a chemical signature. There are a number of chemical by products that are present when they are destroyed and none of these have been found. Given that we have not found any of this and there are no plants there to destroy them, we know he did not do so.
The most likely location is Syria. There is evidence to suggest he moved them to Syria and some of his military officers have stated they moved the stuff to Syria prior to the US invasion.
There is no doubt he had them and there is no doubt he did not destroy them. As to where they are, that is speculation.
That is my opinion about their location.
If you want my expert opinion then you would need to ask me how to treat someone exposed to the various agents or how to protect oneself from exposure.