Obama Lies, Your Loved Ones Die
by Blake on Jul 22, 2009 at 09:28 Political
The Resident, Hussein the Incompetent, wants your elderly relatives to die. No, seriously- he does. This is how he figures that costs can be contained.
In his mind, the elderly,at the end of their life, can get a medical “ice floe” to “ease” the end of their days, and we will all save money by getting rid of the “deadwood”- you know, the people who would be collecting Social Security, if only we had any money left in the Social Security system. By allowing these people to expire, the government figures to save money.
In an interview, the Resident talked about his grandmother, and the end of her days, and the plight of other older people.
THE PRESIDENT: …I actually think that the tougher issue around medical care — it’s a related one — is what you do around things like end-of-life care —
Yes, where it’s $20,000 for an extra week of life.
THE PRESIDENT: Exactly. And I just recently went through this. I mean, I’ve told this story, maybe not publicly, but when my grandmother got very ill during the campaign, she got cancer; it was determined to be terminal. And about two or three weeks after her diagnosis she fell, broke her hip. It was determined that she might have had a mild stroke, which is what had precipitated the fall.
So now she’s in the hospital, and the doctor says, Look, you’ve got about — maybe you have three months, maybe you have six months, maybe you have nine months to live. Because of the weakness of your heart, if you have an operation on your hip there are certain risks that — you know, your heart can’t take it. On the other hand, if you just sit there with your hip like this, you’re just going to waste away and your quality of life will be terrible.
And she elected to get the hip replacement and was fine for about two weeks after the hip replacement, and then suddenly just — you know, things fell apart.
I don’t know how much that hip replacement cost. I would have paid out of pocket for that hip replacement just because she’s my grandmother. Whether, sort of in the aggregate, society making those decisions to give my grandmother, or everybody else’s aging grandparents or parents, a hip replacement when they’re terminally ill is a sustainable model, is a very difficult question. If somebody told me that my grandmother couldn’t have a hip replacement and she had to lie there in misery in the waning days of her life — that would be pretty upsetting.
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Yea, I am sure it would be, but that is his grandmother- he has no trouble being a bit less traumatized over anyone else’s relative.
And it’s going to be hard for people who don’t have the option of paying for it.
THE PRESIDENT: So that’s where I think you just get into some very difficult moral issues. But that’s also a huge driver of cost, right?
I mean, the chronically ill and those toward the end of their lives are accounting for potentially 80 percent of the total health care bill out here.
So how do you — how do we deal with it?
THE PRESIDENT: …you have to have some independent group that can give you guidance. It’s not determinative, but I think has to be able to give you some guidance. And that’s part of what I suspect you’ll see emerging out of the various health care conversations that are taking place on the Hill right now.
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Yea, Great- an “Independent Group”- probably governmental in nature, and ignorant of the true cost in emotions here. Look- this situation is a bit different than putting Rover or Tabby down. Even that is your decision, but the government wants to “help” you with decisions concerning your family. Such compassionate Elites- they know what’s best for us.
In other words, faceless bureaucrats in Washington — not your family — will decide whether your grandparents live or die.
Obama and the Statist Democrats promise health care for everyone, but they will not — and they can’t possibly — deliver it.
And we know this, because this is what occurs in Canada and Britain and other centralized bureaucracies, where you simply can not have access to advanced health care, period.
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This is NOT what our country is all about- if we can abandon our older citizens as the statists want us to, we will lose a part of our soul, a part of what does make us the greatest country in the world, bar none.
We did not form this country to be like everyone else- hell, we ran from those other countries simply because we ARE NOT like everyone else, and we are and should be proud of this, not ashamed.
So why on God’s green Earth would we want to emulate the worst health care systems in the world, where they practice euthanasia by neglect, and decide “who is worth it”?
People need to wake up and realize that laws are easy- too easy- to enact, but they are incredibly hard to repeal, once a bureaucracy is in place.
We need to stop this nonsense now.
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Tags: euthanasia, government interference, incompetence, statists
BLK: “[Obama] wants your elderly relatives to die.”>>
DAR
You don’t believe that. No one believes that. Why do you say things you don’t believe? Why don’t you try being honest? You really seem to be more and more a person who has mental problems.
BLK: “…if we can abandon our older citizens…, we will lose a part of our soul,>>
DAR
You don’t see a problem with end of life care and the chronically ill eating up 80% of costs as something that needs to be addressed? Obama’s question about giving hip surgeries to terminally ill seniors was in the context of everyone having insurance. So it becomes an issue with regard to who makes the subjective decision of when it is appropriate. But why would anyone try to explain “context” to you? A person, who clearly, is not well.
BLK: “…a part of what does make us the greatest country in the world, bar none.>>
DAR
By what objective measurement do you pretend to float the notion that your country is “the greatest country in the world” Blake? Do tell. Have you ever even been out of Texas? LOL.
I really do hope you try to defend this one. Try it and see. Don’t run from it.
BLK: “why… would we want to emulate the worst health care systems in the world,>>
DAR
I was just reading the following, which applies. Not only do we have inferior care and worse results, we pay nearly double for it.
That’s something to be ashamed of.
“The OECD countries with the highest life expectancy (Japan, Iceland, Switzerland, Sweden and Australia) spent, on average, half as much per capita on health care as the United States. According to the World Health Organization, Japan’s average life expectancy is 83 years, compared to 78 for the United States, and OECD data shows that Japan spends 60 percent less per capita than the U.S. does. A 2000 WHO report ranked the United States No. 1 in per capita health expenditures, No. 37 on overall health system performance and No. 72 on level of health.”
factcheck
BLK: “…where they practice euthanasia by neglect,>>
DAR
That’s what we do here, now. And sometimes we do it when the government won’t come for you. See Katrina, where nurses had to kill people after waiting many days with no power.
Hey Blake, guess which country the following quote is about?
“The temperature was over a 100 degrees in the hospital. Living conditions were third world. An autopsy may not determine if the patients were euthanized. The bodies were severely decomposed.”
On American soil. Do you know another comparable, peer, first world country that treats it’s citizens like this? Blake?
BLK: “…and decide “who is worth it”?>>
DAR
In the US, if you don’t have money, you “aren’t worth it.” You pretend to follow Jesus, but unlike him and his emphasis on concern for the poor, you have stopped following his sayings a long time ago and completely perverted yourself, your religion, into greed and the worship of the almighty dollar.
D.
The administration already has Czars in place who believe in “grading people according to their “worth”- a young person is worth more than an older one, and beyond a certain age, plus other factors, you would be judged not worth the cost of repair.- so with them, it’s ALL about the money.
You keep trying to denigrate our health car, but so far, it’s your statements that truly need defending.
Your quote about Katrina could have come from ANY country that had suffered the same Hurricane- Australia, England, any of them.
Our country is the greatest country, by so many measures, that I have to wonder where your sanity is- we are the first to help others in distress, we give the lion’s share of aid to countries in need- we are the only country that is willing to try to settle disputes in other countries, and the country most people in this world want to emigrate to- (You can’t count the Draft Dodgers in Canada).
You are soooooo Canadian, and NOT a true citizen of this country- you lack pride, as well as honesty, about this country. You really should go back to Canada if it is so great- That way you won’t be embarrassed about this one.
And you have absolutely no moral ground to speak of Jesus and assume any motives to me- you do not know me, or who I am or what I have done in my life.
Now you are flinging insults, much like a monkey in a cage flinging his feces, and that’s not a good look for you, D.