Dems Knew About Waterboarding in 2002
Dec 9, 2007 Political
Members of the Democratic Party including now House Speaker Nancy Pelosi were well aware of the technique of waterboarding and expressed no complaints about it when briefed and shown the technique. In late 2002 certain members in leadership were given virtual demonstrations and none expressed any concerns and in fact, several wanted to know if we were pressing hard enough.
That was then and this is now with Democrats saying that waterboarding is torture and demonstrates how evil the Bush administration is. Many of the members (from both parties) who were present during the briefings now claim they do not remember being told about the process or that their recollection, in general, is vague. That is a very convenient dodge to cover up their approval of the technique. Before anyone says that they did not approve keep in mind that failure to express and objection to the procedure is approval by omission.
The recent uproar involves the destruction of video showing certain CIA operatives using various techniques. Some in Congress (Democrats) are calling this a cover up and that it shows that the CIA knows it was breaking the law. The tapes were from 2002 and waterboarding had not been eliminated as a method that may be used. The whole debate on torture and the limits came much later so it is unlikely that the CIA was worried about guilt for something that was not illegal at the time. It is more realistic that they were protecting identities, just as they claim (maybe Valerie Plame was in the videos). In order for the tapes to show guilt any law forbidding waterboarding would have to be made retroactive and I cannot see that happening. I find it amazing that Ted Kennedy would chime in saying one can only conclude there is a cover up given his history of covering up the murder he committed. I also think it is interesting that the same Democrats who are screaming that no one is above the law were dead set against Bill Clinton being impeached for breaking the law. I guess no one is above the law unless it is a Democrat who broke it.
The article about this indicates that waterboarding was used on our troops in the past to show them what to expect if captured by the Soviets. The article gives the impression that we do not do this any longer. Our troops get waterboarded in training and it is training authorized and funded by the Congress. The same people who are crying about a terrorist getting wet are authorizing this technique to be used on our troops. It is authorized by those who have seen it and now cannot recollect what they saw or said. I propose we waterboard those members of Congress to help them remember what they saw and what their positions were.
Hmm, concern for the enemy but not for our soldiers. That is a trademark of the left.
Source:
Washington Post
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Joe Wilson Was OK with Naming Wife
Oct 6, 2007 Uncategorized
Robert Novak writes that he discussed his article with Joe Wilson before it was published and Wilson did not object to his wife being mentioned. Joe’s concerns were egotistical in that he did not want the article’s focus to be that he was simply an opponent of the war and he wanted Novak to know his wife used his last name.
The whole time that the Plame game was going on Wilson acted like the world had come to an end because his wife had been outed. He pinned all this on the Vice President and he said it was a concerted effort to get him for his opposition to the war (but don’t focus on that). It seems to me that if this half baked jackass was so concerned about his wife’s status he would have told Novak his concerns so that the information would not have been printed. Since Wilson failed to say anything and since he allowed his wife’s identity to be published we can conclude that she was not covert (as we have said all along) and that Joe Wilson knew she was not covert. If we go on the assumption that she was covert then he [Wilson] is the one responsible for outing her and he should get to be frog marched to court.
As for Fitzgerald, he knew the identity of the leak when he spoke with Novak a few days into the investigation. The fact that he continued for months on end shows he was engaged in a witch hunt and that he wasted a bunch of taxpayer dollars. If Fitzgerald had ended when he found the “leak” (what he was empowered to do) we could have saved a fortune and a lot of people would not have been inconvenienced, especially Scooter Libby. Fitzgerald was helping someone on the left and he did not care who got hurt in the process. There are those who praised the guy but I think he was grossly incompetent.
There was something fishy about Mr. Plame and his wife right from the start. The nepotism and the incompetence coupled with the partisan view taken by the third rate diplomat caused a lot of problems. One can only hope they send him on another assignment real soon.
But with a one way ticket.
Source:
The Hill
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