The Army Of Won
by Big Dog on Mar 24, 2009 at 04:34 Political
Barack Obama has been busy mobilizing his drones to get out and “encourage” people to sign pledges to support him and his budget. This is a nothing more than a huge waste of time. What does signing a pledge actually mean? A person who did not want to be bothered could sign it and then just do what he wanted. Look how many people filled out multiple voter registration cards just to keep from being bothered by ACORN.
It seems to me that Obama and his minions have a long term goal in mind. Like the Borg (from Star Trek, The Next Generation) the Obamabots move from area to area sucking more people into the Obama Army until they have overwhelming numbers. Then they can compel people to do what they want trough the use of force. As the Borg would say, resistance is fyootile.
Think this is far fetched? Think the Obama folks are peaceful people who only want to encourage those already enamored with the MEssiah to step up their support? Well, you would be half right. According to the Birmingham News the Obamabots have their marching orders:
Those who gathered at Kelly Ingram Park in downtown Birmingham were urged to enlist others who share Obama’s vision and to stay away from trying to convert naysayers.
“We’re looking for supporters,” said DeHaven of Hoover, one of the event’s organizers. “We’re not looking for a fight. That will come later, when we have an army.”
They intend to keep encouraging Obama supporters until they have strong enough support, or an army, to fight. It is quite clear they intend to fight as soon as they have an army. That is a good tactical move but they will be asking for trouble if they think the Obama storm troopers can get support by fighting.
I know that the libs will read this and tell me that the person meant fight as in a good debate but they could do that without the army. One forms an army when one is looking for more than a verbal fight.
The national security force and the Obamabots will be the brown shirted jackboots who try to compel compliance and support.
Join the resistance because resistance is NOT fyootile.
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[…] The Army Of Won “We’re looking for supporters,” said DeHaven of Hoover, one of the event’s organizers. “We’re not looking for a fight. That will come later, when we have an army.” […]
I’m still waiting on the Salvation Army to implement their forceful military Coup d’état. I know it’s comin’, after all “One forms an army when one is looking for more than a verbal fight.”
Maybe I missed it Randy. Where did the SA state that they were looking for a fight. When you mention fight and say you don’t want one until you have an army it is quite different than having an army of people dedicated to the same cause.
If this guy had said we want to have an army of supporters it would have been different. He specifically said fight. He could have a verbal fight without raising an army.
Google “salvation army fight”. They are committed to fighting all sorts of things. My point is a “fight” doesn’t always imply something physical or nefarious.
I would say that in this context it gave that appearance…
But Randy, this is Obama. What else could army and fight mean except goose stepping brownshirts and a Biden lead SS kicking in doors of all those “racists” that disagree with the administration?
But Adam, it is all about context.
Glad to see you finally realize that anyone who disagrees is accused of being a racist.
BTW, I hope Friday went well.
You should really figure out the context of this subject then since you seem to think the actions of a non-profit group volunteering for Obama means “Barack Obama has been busy mobilizing his drones.”
On the contrary, Obama has been busy being the President and cleaning up the mess your folks left behind. What groups supporting Obama do is not the direct work of Obama anymore since he has more important things to do.
Funny how when it’s an Obama supporter it’s always a “bot” or a “drone” or some other kind of derogatory phrase to suggest only mindless people support Obama, not like the “patriots” you folks have marching in the streets for these “Tea Parties”…
But I guess conservatives only love a representative democracy when the people are “smart” enough to vote for a Republican.
No, we love it no matter who they vote for. I find it amazing that you guys screamed fraud in 2000 but not one of you has screamed fraud now that it was revealed that up to 50% of Acorn registrations were fraudulent.
And I certainly hope that the transparent man will show a real birth certificate one day. Not a COLB but the real deal with all the information on it. I had to show one to get a passport and to join the Army…
So that group just did this on its own? Read this. The money quote is:
How is that not the direct work of Obama since he ENLISTED them to do it?
It is interesting that you continue to parrot that he is cleaning up the mess our guys left behind. Of course, people from both parties were involved in all this but if you look back a little further you can see Carter and Clinton and the CRA. The collapse of subprime was the tipping point for the economy. These names, Frank, Dodd, Water, Obama, are they familiar? All received a lot of money from AIG and the first three ignored 17 warnings from Bush about Fannie and Freddie.
There are a lot of people to blame and they come from both parties.
What is funny is that when you attended protests or discussed protests others attended you praised them for exercising their rights and standing up. Now that people on the other side are doing it you mock them as being phony patriots. I thought your side said that dissent was patriotic.
Maybe this is why no one takes you all seriously. No adults running the show. Only people who mindlessly parrot talking points and criticizing people for actions that your guys participated in not so long ago.
I can’t wait to have the army fight with me about Obama. Tag ’em and bag ’em.
Actually, regarding the CRA and who politically may hold some responsibility for the awful state of the economy, I haven’t heard it explained much better than this:
http://www.progressivehistorians.com/2008/05/bill-clinton-glass-steagall-and-current.html
I know, I know…the word progressive is in there so that will invalidate the whole thing for most readers on here. These guys have clearly done their homework on the matter though. Keep in mind it was written well before Obama was elected POTUS and it certainly doesn’t show any mercy to the Democrats involvement in the matter.
This also doesn’t negate the fact that greedy individuals paired with little oversight are primarily to blame for the whole mess.
Certainly lends credence to what I said, both parties were responsible. However, the CRA was the thing that allowed people to rack up huge debt, most of which backed by the government under Fannie and Freddie. Once the housing bubble burst, the banks and their toxic investments (many of which would probably not have been allowed under Glass-Steagall).
There is nothing wrong with the word progressive. We have problems with liberals who pretend to be progressive. The same liberal twaddle is not progressive. In fact, it is regressive.
I take issue with your assertions about the CRA involvement though. On it’s own, CRA wasn’t really a big factor. The stripping of regulations and protections from CRA were a part of the issue. Even then though, CRA wasn’t a huge part of the problem. The BS CDS’s that backed the sub-prime mortgages are what allowed them to be disguised as AAA rated securities. That’s really one of the bigger issues.
Lassiez faire free market capitalism is fine in theory, but in practice there are too many incredibly greedy and dishonest people for it to work.
The problem is that the regulations in place were not followed and the failure is in the part of the regulators that failed to look into these things. You have people in the banking business and regulators who are in bed with each other and you have warnings from Bush about the trillions of dollars held by the GSEs and all of it ignored. Madoff would not have been a problem if regulators would have looked into the suspicions expressed by people.
The greed and dishonesty was from the bankers and the regulators, all of whom got rich.
Capitalism works fine when there are adequate regulations and they are upheld.
The CRA allowed people who could not afford loans to get them. Who are the people defaulting right now? Who are we going to pay for? Those who borrowed with liar loans and all the other things. The CRA relaxed the very regulations you are concerned with and allowed people who would never get a loan otherwise to do so.
I take back what I said about the grass roots group and Obama. I didn’t realize Organizing for America was started AFTER the election. I thought from the article that this was a group simply continuing what they had started before the election.
On the matter of the crisis and CRA as economist William Poole put it last night at a panel discussion I attended: The CRA and those involved with it are just about 1/3 of the problem. Those hanging the crisis around the necks of those involved in the CRA are just out to attack Clinton and Carter or to blame minorities for our troubles and are doing so at the expense of blame for those larger players in the financial industry that put easy profit over long term stability of the markets. CRA wasn’t the major problem and not even the tipping point.
Your problem in comparing 2008 to 2000 election is that you just don’t understand the difference apparently. The 2000 election swung on ONE state with a massive firestorm involved and a court battle. In 2008 no matter how many stories you make up about fraudulent votes there is still zero evidence to suggest enough illegal votes swung any part of the election. As I’ve said before if you gave McCain every state Obama won by less than 10% then McCain still loses. You have to be totally delusional to suggest a 10% margin of fraud altered the outcome of the election in any of the states that would have given a victory to McCain and changed the outcome.
Your new favorite whipping boy ACORN suffers from your extreme distortion of the facts. First of all there is no evidence to suggest the false registrations where planned by ACORN and not simply the work of those involved in gathering the registrations who made money from it filing fake forms. Second no matter how many fake registrations you talk about there is absolutely no way to calculate exactly how many fake registrations turned into fake votes. You ignore both of these things when you talk about ACORN because you want people to think ACORN exists simply to commit fraud, something that patently false.
On protests I don’t think every gathering liberals have is good or worth supporting. I haven’t been to a protest in years myself but I did protest the Iraq war. In the same vein I have little respect for these “tea parties” that are just a gathering of uninformed bitter people who are mad about the outcome of the election more than they’re worried about the future of the country. We survived 8 years of Bush without a peep from these folks about the administrations failure on multiple levels.
Well plenty of economists are pointing to problems with regulators not doing their jobs and the CRA.
As for the election Adam, I never said that he would have won. Are you saying that it is OK with you if our election laws are broken as long as it makes no difference?
If someone voted fraudulently then they should be dealt with regardless of the election.
I never made the claim that it would have changed the election, only that the laws were broken. As for Florida, all recounts showed Bush won and all investigations of so called fraud turned up little to nothing.
Don’t forget the fraud though perpetrated by the media when they called Florida for Gore when all of the panhandle is in a different time zone and had an hour to vote. A lot of people went home instead of standing in line. I am sure that was not a mistake.
It’s important to note that defaulting on mortgages would mean very little to you and me under normal circumstances. The problem came because the major financial institutions involved sold securities to investors backed by these faulty mortgages. They knew backing investments and insurance based on these crappy loans were high risk but they earned big quick profits so there was a failure on multiple levels involving not just those selling the securities but the ratings agencies and those buying the securities. Those who actually got the subprime loan when they couldn’t afford it deserve the smallest portion of the blame.
Or as Randy mentioned briefly already, of course.
So don’t make risky loans and they won’t be repackaged and sold. No one gets rich off them and the economy does not collapse. It all goes back to making the bad loan.
But that’s just it Big Dog, companies made the risky loans because they knew that if they (the loans) went into default then they (the loan companies) wouldn’t be out any money. The loans were already sold off and it was no longer their (the loan companies) problem.
It was a dishonest way to make a quick buck. Make a bad loan, make it look like a good security, sell it so it becomes someone else’s problem. Countrywide etc were given an incentive to make bad loans. The PRESSURED people that they KNEW couldn’t repay loans to take loans. The Financial Services Modernization Act, or Graham-Leach-Bliley created an atmosphere where this situation was possible.
I have little respect for these “tea parties” that are just a gathering of uninformed bitter people who are mad about the outcome of the election more than they’re worried about the future of the country. We survived 8 years of Bush without a peep from these folks about the administrations failure on multiple levels.
Don’t worry, in four years they will be talking of all the Obama failures.
These people are not uninformed. They do not want to pay more in taxes. They know that they will as soon as the tax cuts expire. There is also word that the middle class tax cuts Obama has until 2010 will be done away with.
These people understand full well that the money that is being spent will be paid back by them in taxes. They understand all the taxes that cap and trade, universal health care and all the other things will create.
They are demonstrating against the huge expenditures that will result in higher taxes.
How can you call them uninformed when they know full well what is going on.
Maybe you would applaud them if they smashed windows or started fights…
“Don’t worry, in four years they will be talking of all the Obama failures.”
Too late. You started talking about the failure the minute Obama entered the Oval Office. Kind of ruins the effect I think…
Any way you stack it these tea parties are kind of sad. If it’s about taxes then that’s even more hilarious because we’re talking about at most taxes slightly higher than mid-90’s level. So why are these folks acting like this will spell the end of the republic as we know it and a trampling of constitution?
More distortions and disinformation in Dog’s latest drivel. Now I know why I took a long break from reading this nonsense.
First of all, the entire Florida panhandle is not in the central time zone. I know that claims like this are your specialty Dog, but this bit of dog dirt doesn’t pass the truth test. Turns out there is a little town called Tallahassee- perhaps you’ve heard of it. Anyway, they run on EST there.
Unsurprisingly, I am very familiar with the place. Got friends in high places in Florida politics. (Tallahassee is the state capital, Dog.)
And your fixation with ACORN is truly comical. A few bad apples got some phony signatures and you’re crying about Bush v Gore. You don’t even know what time zone the f’n Florida state legislature is in and your giving your puppies a history “lesson” on November/December 2000. Hilarious.
Here’s a map of the state of Florida and its time zones. I suggest you visit sometime- it’s beautiful. And up in the panhandle, there are plenty of CONservatives to commiserate with over the big L.
http://www.dot.state.fl.us/publicinformationoffice/images/Time_Zone_map.gif
PEACE
Oooh, got me Bunny. Half the panhandle is in the Central time zone. Just like a Dem to ignore the crime and point out some distraction. Fact, that area is heavily Republican and the early call cost a lot of votes. And what difference does it make what time zone the Capital is in? I only indicated that the media did what they did to disenfranchise Republican voters.
You insult my intelligence with the state capital meme. And 50% of registrations being fraudulent is a few bad apples to you. So why do you cry over a few bad votes in 2000? There was no fraud. You guys have been beating this dead horse for 9 years and Bush still won. I guess that was the L you could not accept.
You really are losing credibility.
As for being gone for a while, no one missed you. You don’t have to come back. Go over and have a circle jerk at Meathead’s or Billy Joe’s. You all can take turns being pivot man.
How did the early call affect the area in the eastern time zone? Go ahead and discount my point as trivial, but you are the one who brought the issue up. And as I have shown, you were wrong. You made a “point” that makes no sense about the early call, and then you call it a “distraction” when I bring it to light? Weak.
50% of ACORN registrations fraudulent? Clearly an exaggeration. “A few bad votes in 2000″? Once again, you have no idea what you are talking about.
I don’t know no Billy Joe. Sounds more like one of your gang.
“We’re not looking for a fight. That will come later, when we have an army.”
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Join the Resistance!
We need about 3,000 Resistance Fighters to sign up as Obamabots. What a better opportunity to infiltrate, keep a watchful eye, and subvert their goals. Problem is, you may have to act like them. Well, Freedom isn’t free.
Sounds good, Ricky. Try not to blow your cover by ranting about the evil immigrants of northeastern Pennsylvania. Speaking of which, how’d Mayor Louie make out in that Congressional race? Haven’t seen him on cspan lately.
Is the “Resistance” part of the “Revolution”? When is the next tea(bag) party?
Hello, Bunny. No, I don’t believe this “Resistance” is part of any Revolution or Tea Party (both interesting ideas in their own right). This particular Resistance idea is a natural counter to the unprecedented step (in America) of forming a private army, whether comprised of supporters like these Obamatons, or Gov’t sanctioned “Youth Corps” like we are hearing about lately. In the long run they may be entirely harmless, but it would not hurt to be prepared and in place should the need arise for appropriate intervention. You’ve got to “Get the camel’s nose under the tent”, whether you choose to act or not.
As for Mayor Louie, I live far from Hazelton and Mr. Barletta, but feel he had the guts to take a stand. I don’t necessarily agree with him, but hey, it’s America, por donde nosotros tenemos muchas derechas y opportunidades…or something to that effect.
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All these people who think the tea parties are stupid, why aren’t you complaining about the riots and violence that goes on in places like California, where they’re pissed off that gay marriage wasn’t made legal (which was VOTED on, by the way). They’re smashing in church windows and beating up pastors.
At least those of us who attend tea parties are simply exercising our right to peacefully assemble. Nobody’s getting injured, property isn’t being destroyed.
Oh, but I forgot, we’re daring to mention that we don’t like Obama’s plans for taxing and spending (and, for your information, thousands of people attending these tea parties VOTED FOR OBAMA and/or ARE DEMOCRATS) so therefore we’re stupid and silly. My bad. I forgot that bipartisan agreement is only valid when conservative Republicans are the ones bending over and taking it up the…
This is a nationwide, “neighborhood by neighborhood & block by block” year long campaign to get names & ADDRESSES of potential members of Obama’s “civilian national security force”. It ties in with H.R.1388 which, among many other things, authorizes the possiblility of making youth volunteerism (6th grade & up)MANDATORY.
“Uniforms; training on campus; public sector leaders”? It’s all out there, if one cares to connect the dots.
Once your neighborhood’s “sector leader” & mentally manipulated kid’s realize that you’re not one of them, you won’t be able to flush the toilet, smoke a cigarette, & on & on without that info going into a database somewhere.
Think I’m crazy? Don’t count on it!! Wake up!
You can connect the dots? Awesome! Do me a favor and gimme the final score of tonights Duke/Nova game.