The Ultimate Outsource Courtesy Of Obama
by Big Dog on Jul 16, 2012 at 16:29 Political
For a few weeks now Barack Obama and his regime have been lying about Mitt Romney’s involvement in Bain Capital. Romney left in 1999 to work on the Salt Lake City Olympics but his name remained on the paperwork filed with the SEC. Romney owned the company and his name was required to be on the paperwork even though he had no active part in running the company.
This is important to the Obama camp, because after 1999 Bain had dealings that involved outsourcing jobs. There is really nothing wrong with companies outsourcing but Obama wants to make a big deal out of it in order to paint Romney as anti American business and unable to lead us back to positive job growth.
Obama must spread these lies and deceive voters because he cannot run on his own record. Obama cannot claim he is a job creator because he has a net loss of jobs. He cannot claim he made things better because the unemployment rate is still above 8%; something he claimed would not happen if we passed his Stimulus.
Romney has success in business and in creating jobs. Obama has never owned or run a business and has never had to make a payroll. He is out of his league when compared to Romney. This is why Obama is playing Chicago politics and engaging in lies as part of a character assassination on Romney.
It helps Obama that his base is not really bright enough to understand that just because the man’s name was on the documents does not mean he had anything to do with running the country.
Obama and his minions are pounding away by continually lying about this issue. Nothing new here, Joe Wilson was right about Obama. He lies…
We are able to see a number of things from this very issue. One is that Obama is engaging in the kind of politics he said he would not. He is also showing that he will lie to get what he wants and that he is worried because he knows Romney is better at actually leading.
It is also telling that Obama and his campaign staff continue to call for openness and transparency from Romney while that campaign has been anything but open and transparent.
Obama has almost all of his personal records sealed. NONE of his college transcripts are public, nor are his passports from his youth. His alleged birth record is not an original and has been deemed a forgery by a number of experts. Even if we were to accept it as real, it took nearly three years for Obama to release it.
The entire issue, besides being about the hypocrisy of transparency from the left, deals with outsourcing jobs.
Barack Obama is responsible for more outsourcing than Romney (since Romney was NOT at Bain when it happened). Obama outsourced NASA.
The National Aeronautics and Space Administration, the entity that put the only people to ever land on the moon, there, has been outsourced because of Barack Obama. In order for American astronauts to get to the International Space Station they have to hitch a ride with the Russians.
Yes, the [former] Soviet Union beat us into space and we worked hard for the next decade to get a man on the moon. We led with the Space Shuttle, our telescopes and all kinds of spacecraft. We were unmatched in the world.
And then Obama came along and took away our superior space program and took away the vehicles that get us into space. We are now at a point where we have to hitch a ride to get there.
This is on top of all the companies Obama bailed out that then moved operations overseas.
The reality here is that Obama is lying. He is lying and has been called out on it by several fact checking web sites. But that has not stopped him because he thinks he has an issue here.
Liberals who will run with this are not smart enough to know it is a lie or they don’t care because the end justifies the means.
I wonder where all those who howled that people keep screaming for Obama to release his records even though he has been thoroughly vetted (a false claim the left makes) are now that Obama is making false claims (proven false) over and over and ignoring the truth in order to win an election.
Romney is acting presidential while Obama is acting like a dictator. He will do what he has to in order to destroy his opposition even if it means lying.
That might be the Chicago Way but most of America sees this for what it is.
Barack, you can run but you cannot hide, you can try to control the narrative but you cannot change history.
You are and have been a complete failure and your liberal methods have not worked.
But keep it up. When this backfires the shockwave will be devastating.
And you will get blown away in the blast.
Cave canem!
Never surrender, never submit.
Tags: bain capital, lies, nasa, Obama, romney, russians
“His alleged birth record is not an original and has been deemed a forgery by a number of experts.”
Not real experts of course, but who’s counting?
“And then Obama came along and took away our superior space program and took away the vehicles that get us into space. We are now at a point where we have to hitch a ride to get there.”
The plan to retire the Space Shuttle has been in progress for nearly a decade and the 2010 date itself set under President Bush during his first term in office.
“Liberals who will run with this are not smart enough to know it is a lie or they don’t care because the end justifies the means.”
If this was a clear cut as you say Romney would have a better time answering the charges. He’s flailing and the right is seeing the Romney campaign sputter and stall out in the pre-flight. He’s not even to the convention yet and he’s in trouble over this.
Tell the whole truth. In 2004 Bush signed the order to end the Shuttle Program in his Vision for Space Exploration and the program was supposed to be followed by Project Constellation with two Ares Launch Vehicles. They were not fully funded in 2010 and Obama ended that by asking Congress to go to the private sector for cargo and crew delivery. The Russians are not the private sector.
So the people who have 20 and 30 years of exploring phony documents and whose job it is to do so are not experts? Too many inconsistencies like the person who worked in Hawaii and said no birth record exists. The the Gov there saying he would get to the bottom of it only to conclude he could not. Regardless, we know he is not natural born because he does not meet that definition with a foreigner for a daddy (assuming that is his real father).
Bain has released documents verifying what Romney has stated. He is not floundering. He is being attacked with a lie that has been debunked not only by fact checkers but also by Bain (where there are lots of Obama donors, BTW). Regardless of your claim and attempt to obscure the issue, the reality is that most of Obama’s base are not bright enough to understand the issue because most fo them do not know what it is to run a business or what is involved in the SEC and the filings.
But they should ask themselves this. If Romney did what Obama claims then he committed a crime. Don’t you all thinkt he SEC would have gone after him for that? You know as well as I that the Obamabots in that agency as well as the racist at the DOJ would go after him to take him out and give Obama a clear path to reelection. Since none of that happened in 1999 or 2000 (when the SEC would have seen the problem and pressed charges) it is certain no crime was committed. If Obama sees a crime now and anyone tries to go after Romney it will look like a political move (which it surely will be). No crime was committed as evidenced by the lack of a prosecution. The SEC was obviously satisfied with the paperwork.
If you want transparency I suggest you ask Obama why he is involved in the cover up of Fast and Furious. Now there is a crime. Holder and Obama are neck deep in it and Obama used EP to cover it up. That did not work for Nixon and I think Obama is going to be in trouble. What is he hiding? Instead of the phony charges against Romney perhaps you should see why Obama is covering up the crimes in F&F.
Does Obama really want to discuss past acts as a felony? He passed drugs to his buddies in the Choom Gang. That is a felony. No money has to change hands for it to be a crime because distributing drugs is a felony. Let’s make those claims against Obama, I mean since we are looking for these things and Obama is so concerned about transparency.
Oh wait, he only wants others to disclose. Have you seen his draft records? His college transcripts? Anything he wrote for the Harvard Law Review? Any of his papers from his time in the State Senate?
No, Obama has them all sealed.
Why do you suppose that is?
I bet is lists him as a foreign student in his college records…
“Tell the whole truth.”
You first. Project Constellation would not have been ready for human flight until at least 2015 anyway. Your attempt to blame Obama for us having to hitch a ride to ISS for now falls flat pretty fast.
“…the reality is that most of Obama’s base are not bright enough to understand the issue because most fo them do not know what it is to run a business or what is involved in the SEC and the filings.”
This is true for the vast majority of Americans both left and right so I fail to see your point.
“I bet is lists him as a foreign student in his college records…”
Another idea debunked by these fact checkers you selectively believe in.
NASA had plans to have a crewed flight by 2014. If the program would have continued then the Russians could have flown missions to supply thr ISS. America would be working to have a craft ready and crewed and would be seen as moving forward in space exploration. As it stands now we know there is nothing else so we are forced to hitch rides. Obama made the decision to cancel so he outsourced NASA.
Perhaps most folks do not understand the issue BUT his base is not only ignorant as to how it all works but will also take what Obama says as the truth rather than look at the other documents and the fact that Romney has never been looked at as commiting a crime by the government. If Romney had done something wrong it would have been pursued and this would not be some “new” revelation. They are not bright enough to see what is going on.
Those on the right who don’t understand are bright enough to see what is actually taking place.
How could a fact check organization debunk something without having seen the records?
“NASA had plans to have a crewed flight by 2014.”
The year 2014 was just a test flight in the last timeline they had. It would be 2015 before the first manned flight.
“As it stands now we know there is nothing else so we are forced to hitch rides.”
I’m sad that we don’t have a manned space program right now but even if Obama had not cancelled the program we’d still not have one now. We’ll have manned space flight again in 2019 under the current plans. The irony here is had Obama not cancelled the project the right would have just blasted him for spending even more of our hard earned fractions of tax pennies.
Manned space flight is hardly what has made NASA great the last few decades anyway though. We’ve sent probes all over the solar system at this point and learned countless things about life in this part of the universe.
“How could a fact check organization debunk something without having seen the records?”
What happens is a group of people assemble a series of “facts” that support the idea that perhaps Obama was a foreign student, or perhaps Obama’s birth story is a lie. What groups like Fact Check do is check those facts and they fail. So I’ll agree that Obama might have been born on Mars or somewhere out of Hawaii. He might have gone to school as a foreign student. There is just no credible evidence to suggest that and it’s pure speculation by anyone who repeats such an idea.
According to NASA and the GSA the original plan was to have crewed flights in 2014.
While I think NASA can be more efficient it provides a benefit to society. It is certainly a better expense than trillions in welfare and taxes.
Those pennies of taxes you claim are trillions of dollars. It affects people quite a bit BUT if you look at it as mere pennies then tell the bottom 50% of wage earners to start kicking in some of those pennies.
You mad ethe claim that taxes hurt the lower end more (a fair tax at that) but you surely can’t argue that mere pennies will hur tthem. Hell, they might have to goive up a pack of smokes or get a cheaper model iphone but they can pay the pennies…
That is the problem with liberals. They think they know how your money affects you rather than minding their own business…
“According to NASA and the GSA the original plan was to have crewed flights in 2014.”
Orion 2 was to be the first manned launch in 2014 but this was pushed to 2015 after budget problems in 2007. Orion 1 was an unmanned mission.
“Those pennies of taxes you claim are trillions of dollars.”
Trillions over many years, yes. You complain about certain parts of the budget but with tax dollars going to so many different things your yearly cost for any particular program is almost always pennies.
I read two different plans that included manned by 2014 (later in year) are you sure you are not confusing calendar year with fiscal year? Regardless, we would have a plan and have craft to go. now we have nothing and will not haveanything for the forseeable future. It was outsourced big time.
Sort of like Obama’s fundraising that has been outsourced overseas.
You look at it all wrong. It is not a matter of me spending pennies per program, it is the aggregate of all those pennies I spend on all the programs. I don’t really care if I spend a few cents on each program if the number of programs make my few cents add up to tens of thousands of dollars in taxes. This is a dodge by the left to make the less intelligent think that we are only talking a few cents. We are talking an aggregate amount. It matters not how the money is divided, what matters is how much is taken in total. A guy who pays a million dollars in taxes still pays a million no matter how the feds divide it up.
But, if you could be so good as to make the bottom 50% of wage earners kick in a “few pennies” then maybe they will be patriotic and will have some skin in the game.
Tell me, do you think everyone should be treated equally and that laws should be applied equally? Should a rich guy and a poor guy get the same punishment for committing the exact same crime?
If you say that the laws should apply equally then why do you apply them unequally with regard to taxes? You want the rich guy to pay more than the poor guy and you want this all done in the name of equity. If we are supposed to have the laws apply equally then we should all pay the same percent of income to taxes. That would mean the bottom 50% could stop being unpatriotic and the top 50% would not have to carry the full load.
I am tired of progressives saying the rich can do a little more or pay their fair share when the really rich are paying almost all of the burden and the rest of us are paying for others. Man up and get some skin in the game.
Maybe we should start taxing people who fail to get a job or fail to pay an income tax. You know, a “penalty” for not doing something…
“The reality here is that Obama is lying. He is lying and has been called out on it by several fact checking web sites.”
These same fact checking sites have debunked the lies you’ve repeated about Obama’s birth but I guess those don’t count, right?
The irony would be that Obama relied heavily on those fact checkers to cover for him and now calls them out when they say he is lying.
So what’s your excuse?
I am not relying on them so i need no excuse. I have the brains to know without the fact checkers. Obama has relied on them when they agree. Now that they do not they are bad to him.
I have said before they are in the tank for him on a lot of things, just not this one. I base my thoughts on the fact checkers on the things I see.
I have seen their analysis of things that are absolutely contrary to what is presented and I have seen them absolutely correct based on what I know.
But, I don’t use them as my source one way or the other (not the sole source anyway). I merely pointed out here that Obama was all for them when they agreed with him. I did not say that they are correct or use them as my sole source. I can see what is going on and I can see that the Obama contributers at Bain have debunked the claim.
And I quote–“President Obama’s Disingenuous Attack on Outsourcing
By Conor Friedersdorf, The Atlantic | National Journal – 16 hrs ago”—And who heads the President’s Council on Jobs and Competitiveness? Jeffrey Immelt, CEO of General Electric. “Since Immelt took over GE in 2001, the company has lost 37,000 American jobs, and added 25,000 jobs overseas,” Cole Stengler writes in a Huffington Post article titled “Obama Jobs Council Packed With Outsourcing Companies.” I don’t think there’s anything wrong with that. Competition from foreign workers is going to disrupt labor markets for the foreseeable future; a company that foreswore outsourcing would be neither efficient nor viable in the long run. If Obama simply disagreed that would be one thing; instead Obama pretends to think Romney is malign for his indirect complicity in outsourcing years ago, even as he praises and elevates various business elites who are directly responsible for massive outsourcing right now.
Just look at Jeffery Immelt, Adam- the JOBS CZAR appointed by Obammy, anad most of his jobs are outsourced at GE- as a matter of fact, about 70% of GE is in China or Mexico.
And HE’s in charge of finding or creating jobs here in the U.S.?
Crap, no wonder Obammy is a jobs failure.