Will The World Test A President McCain?
by Big Dog on Oct 20, 2008 at 10:41 Political
Joe Biden was at a fund raiser this past week and he told people to mark his words, that President Obama would face an international crisis within six months of taking office. Biden said that the world would test Obama like it did JFK (Obama is no JFK):
“Mark my words,” the Democratic vice presidential nominee warned at the second of his two Seattle fundraisers Sunday. “It will not be six months before the world tests Barack Obama like they did John Kennedy. The world is looking. We’re about to elect a brilliant 47-year-old senator president of the United States of America. Remember I said it standing here if you don’t remember anything else I said. Watch, we’re gonna have an international crisis, a generated crisis, to test the mettle of this guy.”
“I can give you at least four or five scenarios from where it might originate,” Biden said to Emerald City supporters, mentioning the Middle East and Russia as possibilities. “And he’s gonna need help. And the kind of help he’s gonna need is, he’s gonna need you – not financially to help him – we’re gonna need you to use your influence, your influence within the community, to stand with him. Because it’s not gonna be apparent initially, it’s not gonna be apparent that we’re right.” ABC Political Radar
Look at how Biden is saying this. He is telling people that Obama is a young and inexperienced, unproven commodity that will be tested by the world, possibly from Russia or the Middle East. He is saying that if we elect this unproven guy we are inviting some type of test crisis from the bad parts of the world. Joe Biden is saying that the bad guys view Obama as weak and will test him to see what he is made of. Biden is telling us that our enemies are watching and if we elect Obama they believe America will be weaker so they will test that theory.
Biden also tells people that Obama will need their support to stand behind him when the crisis occurs. What he is saying is that when the inexperienced Obama is tested, please don’t get hysterical and jump ship. Please stand behind him to show those who predicted he was not ready on day one that he has support and that they were not really right about him, even though it will look that way. Joe also said it will not be apparent that they are right like if they use military force after bashing Bush for doing so in the face of crisis (or worse yet, treating it like a crime or trying to meet the aggressors without precondition).
Now America, you have to ask yourself if this is who you want as president. Do you want a guy who his own running mate says is so new and unproven that he will be tested with a crisis (could be an attack on us or our interests or it could be something else) to lead this nation? Do you want a guy whose own running mate has just confirmed what we have all (including Biden and Hillary in the primaries) been saying and that is, Obama is not ready to lead on day one which, according to Biden, will lead to a test crisis?
You also have to ask yourself if the world will test John McCain with a crisis. Will the bad guys in the world generate a crisis to test a president McCain as they will a president Obama (like foreign policy expert Joe Biden says) or do they already know what McCain is made of and therefore will not try to test him? If the world equates McCain to Bush, as Obama does, don’t they already know what will happen if our country is threatened?
If the world, according to Joe the Senator, will test Obama’s mettle with a crisis then it is apparent that Obama is viewed as weak by those who seek our demise.
That is one thing we know they cannot say about McCain.
Maybe this is why our enemies are pulling for Obama to win.
Tags: biden, crisis, inexperienced, Obama, unproven
I think the real question here is if Obama is tested will conservatives like yourself stand behind him “right or wrong” like you guys always said liberals refused to do with Bush? Will you be traitors and hate America too like we were just for opposing Bush?
It’s already clear that you’ve given up on the Obama presidency before he’s even elected, making sure we all know how bad it’s going to be and talking about your list of Obama voters you’re going to hold accountable.
I can honestly say I wasn’t against Bush from the start (though I wasn’t too politically informed back then) but that a long series of mumblings and fumblings and the aftermath of 9/11 and the Iraq war made me really lose respect for Bush and regard him as the chimpy buffoon that he is.
The role reversal in the next few years is going to be a worthy thing to look and and puzzle over. Liberals defending Obama’s use of the military? Conservatives writing off every use as a political game? Looks like the 90’s are back again. Oh joy…
Why is Obama no JFK? Just curious. There’s no reason for us to believe he isn’t above and beyond JFK status right now. Obama could potentially have people like Colin Powell, Chuck Hagel, Joe Biden, etc. advising him when he becomes president. I don’t think the scare tactics are very helpful. He’ll be fine.
JFK was a conservative Democrat; Obama is a communist.
But as to the theme of this post, it was common practice in the Roman Senate to choose as consul, a weak leader. It didn’t always work out that way, of course, but everyone knows the weakest leaders are easiest to manipulate, whether domestically, or in matters of foreign affairs. The US last saw this in the administration of Woodrow Wilson, another Democrat weak sister who not only allowed Germany to attack our ships and cities; he also suspended the Constitution as a means of suppressing dissent. It was not exactly like the present-day liberal campaign to silence Joe the Plumber, but sort-of. Same mindset, anyway.
Biden also tells people that Obama will need their support to stand behind him when the crisis occurs.
When the shoe is on the other foot, funny how the Democratic rheteric changes. Did you know that the same amount of military personnel died during the Clinton administration when we were not at war as have died during the Bush administration when we ARE at war. Did you know that since the war on terror began, American INNOCENT CIVILIAN casualties have gone way down in the last seven years as opposed to the last 30 some years where we were not fighting back the terrorists which is the whole point of fighting our attackers. It is the presidents constitutional duty to protect this country’s sovereignty and security and it is not the president’s duty to hand out money, healthcare, housing, education or any other welfare.
This country will fall from weakness on the inside and it will be caused by the Democrats who ABSOLUTELY OWN partisonship and it will be helped along by Republicans who have bought all the BS even to the point of abandoning their principles and the president.
I will stand behind my country in whatever action it takes. That does not mean that I can’t criticize the president, just as I never said the left was wrong for criticizing. The vitriol from you guys was pure hatred and now you will fault anyone else who does that.
Just don’t think that I will passively agree. I will support the action but will point out any errors. Unlike the libs, I will not stop supporting my country.
The other question is, if I call Obama Chimpy Obama will it be considered a racist remark?
And who are you kidding, you never gave Bush a chance. One thing is, if Obama is tested it will be his fault. you see, libs blame 9/11 on Bush because it happened on his watch. If Obama wins then it will be fun to turn the tables on you and the loons at Kos.
I am still betting you a dinner (or lunch) that Obama will not have our troops out of Iraq by the end of first term.
I also think that inflation will be 15% and unemployment at least 7%.
Hope will not change things. You will find out.
You may be right. To speak frankly, I try not to act like Obama’s automatically gonna be a great president or McCain a bad one. Personally I have just a couple of things I hope for from Obama or McCain but otherwise I understand the job is enormously hard and with the party deadlock even more difficult.
1. I want them to work toward balancing the budget by whatever means within reason. We disagree on social spending and such but I think most people agree that a balanced budget is important.
2. I want an emphasis renewable energy research and job creation relating to that stuff. I think a lot of good American jobs can be created that way…
3. We can’t not fight terrorism, I just disagree on how we’ve been fighting so far. I want a new approach and I want to see the Iraq war closed out sanely.
That’s what comes to my mind if I could only have a few things from either. Maybe it’s too much to ask for…
A bonus for me is universal healthcare but of course that’s a hot button issue for the two sides and not really worth debating just yet…
I never knew about the bet or I missed it or I just forgot. Remind me again sometime and maybe we can make it happen.
Dog: As usual, you miss the point. We don’t hate W., we hate all the stupid things he did as president. He took a nation that had a budget surplus, low unemployment and was at peace and respected by the rest of the world to where we are now. Any red-blooded, country-loving American would hate to see anyone do that to his or her nation.
The budget surplus is a myth propagated by the left. There was no balanced budget and there was no surplus. We still had billions in debt and they cut what they were going to spend and called it balancing. The facts are there for those who care to read them. The so called surplus was based on future acts that never happened.
http://www.letxa.com/articles/16
We still respect peace. Our peace was disturbed on 9/11 after years of Clinton complacency emboldened bin Laden. The inaction in Somalia is what OBL states as his reason for attacking the paper tiger.
Unemployment numbers and economic indicators were as good as or better than during the Clinton years. This has changed in the last two years. Guess who has been in charge of Congress.
I wrote the bet in a comment. I will have to look and see what it was. Just a friendly loser buys lunch kind of thing.
I can’t disagree on the goals you have and to be quite honest neither man will have an easy time. I think we do better when one party controls the Executive and another the Legislative. Absolute power is a problem as we have seen from both parties. Term limits would also be useful.
We can discuss health care. The problem is not access because everyone has access. The issue will not be solved with universal care and it will be very costly. You will never have a balanced budget. Look what happened in MA and HI. The government controls the health care for the military and look at how badly that was administered. Remember Walter Reed? The care is great, the administration sucks.
Government creates terrible bureaucracies. My plans would be much better.
I don’t disagree with split control of the branches. But if the Dems have to run everything I want it to be a narrow margin so they have to work at least somewhat with the other side. Unfortunately it looks like Dems could gain a filibuster proof majority in the senate and add to the vast gains in the House from 2006.
I think if the Dems get 60 in the Senate Lieberman will caucus with Republicans to preserve the filibuster.
Dog: You’re quoting a fellow wingnut as proof that the surplus never existed under the Clinton administration. Got anyone on hand for a quote that evolution is a phony liberal invention or that the world is REALLY flat?
And can that silly fallacious argument about the Democrats being in charge of the Congress for the last two years. The wasn’t enough time nor votes to undo the mess the Republicans made during their sorry years of reign.
Monroe, The information came from the Treasury. Perhaps you should have looked through the links. The numbers came from the US Treasury.
Evolution is phony but I don’t know if it is a liberal invention. It is just a theory that has never been proven.
The economy was good when the Republicans were in charge. You admitted it when you said that Clinton gave us great stuff because that happened with a Republican majority.
But, look at the numbers, the unemployment rate, GDP, and economic indicators were all just as good or better than Clinton’s reign during the Bush years.
The only real way to balance the budget is a constitutional amendment for a cap on income taxes. The Government is addicted to spending our money and will never reign themselves in. It has to be done for them. I propose a maximum of 20% on income. A tax raise in the middle of a recession is ludicrous. It will cost jobs in an economy that is already losing thousands of them. I agree with Dog. I will support my country regardless of who the President is. The number of Democrats I have heard referring to President Bush as stupid or derogatorily as Shrub instead of Bush is a shame. It is bitterness over lost elections and does nothing but bring our country down. You can disagree with policy as much as you want but don’t denegrate the office of the Presidency. Back to the point. Rogue countries or entities are much more likely to test Obama than McCain. Do we really want that?
You consider unemployment close because numerically it’s close. Person wise it’s a significant difference. There’s just about a 1.5 million workers difference between 4% and 5% and about 3 million difference between 4% and 6%.
GDP has been OK, but it’s looking like it could be a 2nd recession under Bush if we get another quarter of negative growth.
You fail to mention the national debt though.
Obama is no JFK, because JFK, a democrat who I can at least respect for understanding what it is to be an American, said, “Ask not what your country can do for you. . .” and all Obama seems to talk about to his supporters is what their country can do for/give to them.
The unemployment numbers under each president were nearly identical. They have gone up a bit in the last year.
This will not be the second recession under Bush though i am sure libs would love to pin it on him. The first one started in 2000 before he took office. He inherited a recession.
There needs to be 2 consecutive quarters of negative growth. It is possible that a recession will not hit until the next president takes office. Who will own that?
“Will The World Test A President McCain?”
Well, yes. Being tested by the world is part of the job description. The thing is, McCain would get an A and Obama would get an F (or maybe even an incomplete).
I mean, just look at Obama’s initial response to Russia invading Georgia or his “gutless retreat from Iraq” plan or his overall pathetic approach to terrorists. Contrast all of that with McCain’s positions. ‘Nuff said.
Good Point SpideyTerry,